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Thread: Woodworking for Women
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21st February 2005, 11:52 PM #1
Woodworking for Women
I found a magazine today called Woodworking for Women, and it's associated site http://www.woodworkingforwomen.com/ which looks like any other woodworking site without any blokey stuff.
A question for the girls:
Is this a patronising way of providing a genuine service or a cynical attempt at separating a growing market niche from its disposable cash? (One of the tabs is "Shopping," but of course it's not aimed at anyone in particular! )
I can't see the gender relevance, woodworking is woodworking and techniques are the same (with some different techniques required for dexterity due to different sizes and strengths).
Reminds me of a group formed many years ago "women in architecture" which attempted to cash-in on supposed gender gap in design skills. My opposition group which was not gender based, "Persons with moustaches in architecture" was dismissed as a folly.......Perhaps there is a market for persons with moustaches in woodworking???
Now where was I???
PLast edited by bitingmidge; 22nd February 2005 at 08:40 AM.
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22nd February 2005, 08:20 AM #2I found a magazine today called Woodworking for Women"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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22nd February 2005, 08:26 AM #3
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22nd February 2005, 05:43 PM #4
When I started out some years ago, the area in which I had most difficulty was being taken seriously by retailers - men. Had a run in with a jerk in Bunnies tool shop back then, no other customers, totally ignored me (perhaps I was too well dressed ). He was "relocated" to another department after I suggested he had a problem with women in a man's domain. Bought a SCMS there recently and their attitude has changed considerably. Some retail outlets now have woodworking demos aimed at the female market, not before time, they've finally figured money is money? I am comfortable being a female woodworker and can match it with the guys in my chosen craft. Maybe some women would prefer to mix it with their own. As for the forums, I like this one! The advice is good, and I can disregard the "blokey" stuff if it doesn't suit me.
Tikki
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22nd February 2005, 07:11 PM #5Deceased
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Originally Posted by bitingmidge
BTW men also post to that site , but so booooring.
Peter.
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22nd February 2005, 07:17 PM #6Registered
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I liked the peice by Feral Cheral best.
How to clean hog prints from your dirt floor.
And the other one,......... how to love a man, who isnt your kin....
Al
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25th February 2005, 02:02 PM #7
had a look at that site some time ago but didn't bother to go back, this one is more interesting.
Whether a site or a magazine aimed at females is a good or a bad idea depends I think on who set it up and what they are providing. I would think that a women's woodwork or motorcycling or money site/magazine would have 95% non advertising content that was unisex. It would be the adverts and the other 5% which would determine whether it was worthwhile purchasing /browsing it.
I think there can be a place for "sexist" groups where women or men are in the minority in a particular career or interest. It can feel very lonely when you're a minority ( 1 female out of 100 in one department I worked at ) and even lonlier if you get treated like **** when you go to the local motorbike shop / tool shop etc and you're not sure why. Sometimes an all female group can answer those questions like - what are the best bikes if you've got short legs, or what is the best trade off between performance and weight for a circular saw or a router. But then again there are short men and guys who aren't particularly strong who might also benefit from that sort of information.
I wouldn't be bothered with any organisation which was so women-centric that men are excluded from all of their activities and similarly I tend to take a very dim view of those organisations that restrict committee positions and voting rights to men but are quite happy for wives and girlfriends to do all of the work.no-one said on their death bed I wish I spent more time in the office!
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25th February 2005, 07:59 PM #8Originally Posted by Tikki
Why :confused:Is there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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25th February 2005, 08:10 PM #9Registered
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Surely woodwork is woodwork, no matter what you is, male or female, I cant see the relevence in targeting women, except for the dollar value.
BTW, I have some nice timber for sale, suit females only.
See how stupid it sounds??
Al :confused:Last edited by ozwinner; 25th February 2005 at 08:29 PM.
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25th February 2005, 08:15 PM #10
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25th February 2005, 08:18 PM #11
Precisely my point Al. Just a bit more long winded.
Is there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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26th February 2005, 12:54 AM #12
Why :confused: asked Dan:
Scenario: Your fly got ripped out of your strides when you fell from the top of the cantilevered pole house . You go into a sewing machine shop and ask what machine you'll need to sew it back in. The assistant sells you an overlocker .
I'm quite sure if you decided to take up dressmaking you'd like to see demonstrations of the equipment you need to do the job before you buy.
Half of the equipment in my shed is totally useless to me because I have purchased with little/no knowledge of their capability. I have had to rely on the salesperson and his knowledge of the product/s to match it/them to my needs.
When I went to school boys did woodwork, girls did needlework, there was no choice in subjects. With the growing interest in woodwork and home maintenance amongst women why not appeal to and cash in on that market.
And the winners are: Women with more knowledge and confidence to try woodworking, etc and the retailer who sells more of his product.
Why "not before time"? If I was walking around with my fly done up with safety pins, I'd be asking "when's the first demo?".
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26th February 2005, 11:58 AM #13Originally Posted by TikkiOriginally Posted by Tikki
Originally Posted by Tikki
Dan
PSIs there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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27th February 2005, 12:42 AM #14
Persistent little bugger, aren't you. Ever thought of joining the Dog Squad?
Women have not asked for/demanded these demos, the decision has been made by the retailer based on the increasing interest by women. If enough interest was shown in dressmaking by men, in my opinion it would also be in their best interest to cater for that market too.
Bear in mind I'm talking about someone who has little/no knowledge of a particular craft, it's virtually impossible to research a product when you have no idea what you require to perform a specific task in the first place. You then have to rely on the advice of the retailer. I refer you to the scenario in my previous post .
Tikki
PS Hope the safety pins are holding up
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1st March 2005, 03:30 PM #15Son Of Odin
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Whats wrong with safety pins?
J!J!
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