Thread: Bait For Lee Valley

Originally Posted by jackiew

square yards..(snip) ...are all fine

but I prefer them to have a more rectiliniar shape.

I REALLY love this thread.... well it's more a spiral really...


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Actually more like a double helix at the moment.

Originally Posted by silentC

Actually more like a double helix at the moment.

Wait until the foil hat joins in...

1m2=10.76f2

1m2=1.196yards2

IF 3yards2=1square, then 10.764m2 is one square.

I've been looking at house plans a lot lately. Most of them give you squares and square metres. Here's an example of one I'm looking at now: Living Area: 206sqm (22.3sq). 206 / 22.3 = 9.23. Therefore, if they are quoting the correct figures, 1 square must be 9.23 square metres, no?

Gee I thought I asked a simple question.

I always thought that a square was 10' x 10' or 100 sq feet.

Now I'm buggered if I know what it is :eek: :confused:

Originally Posted by silentC

I've been looking at house plans a lot lately. Most of them give you squares and square metres. Here's an example of one I'm looking at now: Living Area: 206sqm (22.3sq). 206 / 22.3 = 9.23. Therefore, if they are quoting the correct figures, 1 square must be 9.23 square metres, no?

Are you saying you've found the nine in the 9-10-11 metric rule of thumb??

Now at the risk of starting this all over again:

A square was originally 100 sq ft.

There has been enough mathematical evidence provided above to show that 100 square feet does NOT equal 10 square metres.

With the passage of time some unknowing, lazy people have referred to 10 square metres as a "Square" and I suspect that in a few years it's original meaning will be lost to antiquity.

A "SQUARE" is not a unit of measure, so can be used by anyone at anytime to describe any size without recrimination. You can't go to Consumer Affairs, and complain that you thought a square was bigger!

Now check out the manner in which the area has been calculated. One of the great ploys by the humpy building fraternity is to measure "under roof" which is actually to the outside of the eaves. (A faux-square??) This gives a surprising increase in apparent area, with a surprising decrease in the rate per square metre to build.

Make sure that when you are comparing apples with apples, all areas are calculated to the outside face of the external walls or glass line in accordance with the Standard Method of Measurement.

How big were Builder A's "squares"???

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I just went back a few posts and realise that I said I was proving that 1 square = 10 square feet. What I MEANT to say was 1 square = 10 feet square, or 100 square feet. I think this is where the confusion lies. 1 square is 10 feet square, which is NOT the same as 10 square feet. I humbly apologise for any contribution my error might have made to the stability of the system of weights and measures in this great country of ours.

100f2/10.76=9.29m2=9.3m2.

Originally Posted by craigb

Let's not lose sight of the fact that the only reason this bulk order is happening this time around is mainly due to the good offices of DarrylF.

Will it ever happen again?

Who knows.

Ask Darryl (or maybe Rob )

For myself, I'm not counting on it.

I'd do it again, IF nobody makes life difficult for me in this one, I'm not out of pocket and there's a reasonable demand for another go.

http://www.acrobuildingsystems.com/la_Standoff.htm

it gives you the idea what they are used for Silent C but the design of the one I rashly sold before coming out here was a bit different. They are very useful things when you want to clean your gutters and your house is either 2 storey or on a serious slope.

... anyone who knows me knows that going with the flow is going against my essential nature

anyone who knows me knows that going with the flow is going against my essential nature

We know!!!

Please don't lure them here, the prices will be too much. I can get stuff I want at a price I want and the shipping cost is OK. Much quicker than local outfits and nothing is on "back order!!!!"

It would be interesting to know how much LV sells to OZ per year? Then freight costs.
Would the volume be enough to get distributor discounts? Without a decent discount one would
a. Not make it a viable business (for the distributor)
nor
b. Make it competitive with/for the existing resellers here.

If LV set up a distributor (one would assume, sole, given the market here), then the discount would have to be sufficent for the distributor to make money as well as the retailer (Carbatec/Mik/Timbercon, etc). How would a distributor benefit us? My guess would be an average of at least 10 to 15% reduction on the existing retail on our current retailer's prices were a distribution channel set up. The other advantage of the distributor would be quicker deliveries, quicker repair/exchange for the no doubt occassional failure, perhaps if the distributor were to take more of the pie, then the retailers might be happier as they would carry less stock.

Stop it .... I did this with IT for 10 years and got out ...

Musing ...

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