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  1. #1
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    Default Quiz for August 6th

    You want to make some mitred picture frames.

    What methods can you use to get a nice strong mitre joint that wont move?

    For the purpose of this quiz we will assume you have cut nice accurate mitres.

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    biscuits (and read the Triton Woodworkers Newsletter - July Edition)
    If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.

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    I usually put a biscuit in each mitre (with some glue of course) and then hold it together with one hand while I shoot a few wiggle staples into it with the Bostitch MKIII wiggle gun in my other. Quick, strong and requires no clamps.

    Mick
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    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

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    Dowel - I use 2 dowel pins for each joint. It works for me.

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    I take the piece of art to my local framer who uses a guillotine to cut very accurate mitres and then...... does something to fix it together...... then calls me to pick it up. I, having used the time to do something else I enjoy, and have to admit, can probably do better at.

    I'm not going to win a prize for this answer am I?

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    Anthony post your pic,

    If Al likes it he might donate himself as the prize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Regards, Bob Thomas

    www.wombatsawmill.com

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    Ah, but would I win?

    As for posting a pic, I have, see my avatar!

    Anthony

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    Talking A Good Joint

    I'd Kreg it.

    G'Day Ppl;
    I'n Back for a while

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    secret mitred dovetails, ...easy.
    Mick

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    90mm framing gun.


    Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias Ralph
    What methods can you use to get a nice strong mitre joint that wont move?
    • biscuits
    • dowels
    • splines (pinned or not)
    • keys (centred, faced, dovetail, butterfly)
    • slips
    • half-laps
    • dutchmen (see butterfly key)
    • nails
    • screws
    • v-nails
    • corrugated nails
    • cogged wedges (the thing in the japanese video)
    All I can think of for now...
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    Depends on the size of the mouldings, if there is a large joint surface area a good quality glue by itself is good enough, a small joint area moulding needs some sort of mechanical fixing like bicki's or spline/dowels.
    ....................................................................

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenwood
    • biscuits
    • dowels
    • splines (pinned or not)
    • keys (centred, faced, dovetail, butterfly)
    • slips
    • half-laps
    • dutchmen (see butterfly key)
    • nails
    • screws
    • v-nails
    • corrugated nails
    • cogged wedges (the thing in the japanese video)
    All I can think of for now...

    Get out of it..........................
    There wouldn't be any room for any timber/wood would there, with all that Hardware in there.

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    OK! OK! I got this one!...we already have nice mitre's right!..190mm x 45mm rough sawn (for that rustic look) coach screws in the corners then dyna bolt the whole thing to the wall ( if it's brick). If gyprock go into the next room and put an off-cut 190 x 45 with liquid nails and through bolt the whole wall, might have to get someone to hold a spanner on the other side!........Well, you didn't say how big the picture was!......
    savage.
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    Three inch spiral nails and it ain't going nowhere. I would use a lock mitre bit on the router table.



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