Thread: C22 Bags

$28.50 US for the pack of 5. Couldn't be bothered to fool with it.




[But a good tip, anyway. I know some folks who remove the bag, suck out the dust with a shop vac, and re-use it. ]

Nor would I if I lived in the US and could buy for $28.00 but NZ price is equiv to $87.00 US!!!

im on my third bag in 3 years i just put a mask on and empty it when full

Well done Bryan, Just make sure you check your filters, as you keep using the same bag the pores in the bag open up & allow fine particles, once they are past the bags they then hit the filters....then the motor impellors....once on there they unbalance the motor & it starts to vibrate & get very noisey & eventualy does the bearings which cant be repaired....you then need a new motor which will cost you between $250-$500 depending on the repair shop

ps has anyone tried the long life bags??? expensive upfront but save you a motsa in the long term!!

Cheers,


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www.vektools.com.au

cheers kiro i will keep that in mind it doesnt get full very often and probably get about 3 or 4 empties out of a bag

but i dont clean the filters very often either i might go do it now

thanks for the advice

bryan

well the inner lineing of the bag was getting full they are in the bin and onto new bag and a fresh spare one in the bottom of the vac filters clean now

just bought my first lot of festool tools today & picked up the ct22 with the long life bag thanx to kiros advice from vek tools...for the $250 extra to the normal package i couldnt resist

im surprised the festool vacs are not bagless i just bought a $900 dyson for home and it dont have no bag my cheap shop vac is also bagless i would use 2 baggs a day owchh

Originally Posted by thesupervisor

im surprised the festool vacs are not bagless i just bought a $900 dyson for home and it dont have no bag my cheap shop vac is also bagless i would use 2 baggs a day owchh

First off, the Dyson is a sort of cyclone and is designed for home cleaning, not shop work, where the dust would soon clog the expensive filter.

Which, in fact, is also what happens with your bagless shop vac. Festo tools, including the vacs, are designed for mobility and to perform work at client's premises. I have had workers in my home using shop vacs and the end result was almost worse than the original mess, except the shop vac blew the dust everywhere instead of confining it to the original work space.

What the CT-22 bag doesn't capture, the HEPA filters do and the exhaust is clean. Actually, the bags last a good long while as well. You would not fill two bags a day unless you are using your shop vac as the DC for your table saw or planer, which really is not the correct application.

Try one out and you will immediately see the difference.

Originally Posted by thesupervisor

im surprised the festool vacs are not bagless i just bought a $900 dyson for home and it dont have no bag my cheap shop vac is also bagless i would use 2 baggs a day owchh

Hi bloke, hi thesupervisor,

There are two main reasons for the dust bags. Firstly they are filter bags, not just containers for dust. So the air passes through them and they filter out the dust from the air, and the dust drops into and remains in the bag. The filtered air then passes into the extractor container area and then up through the HEPA filter. As the filter bag has removed the vast majority of the dust already, the HEPA filters job is to remove the final minute particles (down to 0.3 micron) from re-entering the users environment post extraction.

Secondly, the bags are for user safety and general cleanliness. When full, the bags are closed with a o-ringed sealing plug (whilst still in the extractor) then the user takes the sealed bag out and disposes of it in the bin. So the user does not have to deal with the dust a second time. Nor does the dust enter the environment (home, workshop, client site).

Bloke, I was VERY dubious of the Dyson (anything that has to be push-marketed on to consumers is dodgey in my book). There is nothing new about the cyclonic system yet they pretend they invented it. Anyway one of my neighbours (still don't know who) was throwing out their Dyson because it didn't work properly. Under the cover of darkness I scooped it up and, as you said, they were using it to vacuum fine plaster dust and the primary filter got clogged up (which, apparently, they hadn't discovered). BUT this filter is washable so rinse it out and away you go again. I've never seen anything make it through to the HEPA filter. I also own a Nilfisk and to be quite honest it's well made but old technology. I can't see any good reason why Festool can't also go cyclonic with a washable filter.

Edit: Oh I just re-read Anthony's post (properly this time) and he does have a point about the dust when emptying.

Originally Posted by Pete F

Bloke, I was VERY dubious of the Dyson (anything that has to be push-marketed on to consumers is dodgey in my book). There is nothing new about the cyclonic system yet they pretend they invented it. Anyway one of my neighbours (still don't know who) was throwing out their Dyson because it didn't work properly. Under the cover of darkness I scooped it up and, as you said, they were using it to vacuum fine plaster dust and the primary filter got clogged up (which, apparently, they hadn't discovered). BUT this filter is washable so rinse it out and away you go again. I've never seen anything make it through to the HEPA filter. I also own a Nilfisk and to be quite honest it's well made but old technology. I can't see any good reason why Festool can't also go cyclonic with a washable filter.

Edit: Oh I just re-read Anthony's post (properly this time) and he does have a point about the dust when emptying.

Hi Pete. The matter of dealing with 'second-hand' dust when disposing of sealed bags, or as some guys do emptying them out and re-using them, is a personal choice. At least with a bag type dust extractor you have that choice.

The Festool HEPA filters can be washed out if they become clogged. But I understand this will slightly after their filtration specification like any filter that is washed. I will check this with Festool though.

If one needs to wash out their filters, do it gently and leave them out in the sun to dry.

Originally Posted by nt900

If one needs to wash out their filters, do it gently and leave them out in the sun to dry.

This is precisely what SWMBO does to me, Anthony.

Originally Posted by nt900

If one needs to wash out their filters, do it gently and leave them out in the sun to dry.

That sentence in isolation sounds a bit odd. Sorry your wife does this to you Bloke.