Cheap Festool on Ebay

**Calm** · 16th April 2008, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by ricgstevens

Judging by Ebay's procedures around suspected fraud, they are too goddamm slow to act and will only do so AFTER somebody's been hurt. In this case quite a number of people who have (presumably) paid out large sums of dough. Remember the phrase "buyer beware"?

Got this from Ebay last night:

Hello ricgstevens,

Our records indicate that you recently received an email from 6206_camping through eBay's email system and that it may contain a fraudulent offer to purchase or sell an item off the eBay site.

* Please consider the following safety tips before you act on this email:

- Do not respond to the sender if the message is an offer to buy or sell an item outside the eBay website. This type of offer is against eBay policy and if the transaction takes place, it will not be eligible for buyer protection.

- If you received what looks like a Second Chance Offer for an item you recently bid on and it's appearing in My Messages it may not be legitimate. Real Second Chance Offers appear in My Messages with a blue background and the subject line 'eBay Second Chance Offer for Item ...'.

- Never pay for your eBay items using instant cash wire transfer services such as Western Union or MoneyGram.

* If you already sent payment for an item that was bought outside the eBay website, or if you shipped an item to a fraudulent buyer, we suggest you take the following steps:

- Contact the payment service you used to make the purchase and ask if they provide consumer protection in cases of online fraud. If you shipped an item to a fraudulent buyer, contact the carrier you used.

- Contact the local authorities in the area where the seller/buyer resides.

* Please also take the time to provide more information on the transaction bought/sold outside of eBay. The information you provide will help us work with law enforcement if an investigation occurs. Go to the following page and choose 'Item Bought Outside of eBay' or 'Item Sold Outside of eBay' and follow the instructions.

Too little too late for some I fear!

Richard

Got the exact same email yesterday myself.

**rhancock** · 16th April 2008, 09:00 AM

That email is an automated response from ebay's system for any email between users which isn't linked to an itme currently for sale, or which you have bid on.

I've received the same one on quite a few occasions.

**Carry Pine** · 16th April 2008, 10:19 AM

The guy still had a festool item for auction last night (15th) but i notice it has been withdrawn this morning.

I'm not trying to hijack the thread but do others have a strong leaning towards other on line auctions that have a better reputation and customer relations than E bay (apart from Buy Sell and Swap). Mainly interested in tools, timber, etc. Would like a recommendation.

Carry Pine

**SilentButDeadly** · 16th April 2008, 12:36 PM

Grays Online is where I like to play for this sort of stuff. But beware the buyers premium and GST.........and the fact that in many cases it is pick-up only.

**mat** · 16th April 2008, 02:49 PM

Something strange happening on ebay - these sales have now disappeared from the "completed listings"

**Jasey** · 16th April 2008, 09:08 PM

Like others I also reported this, this is Ebay response for those interested

Hello,

I'd like to thank you for writing in regarding your concerns with item #
160229174156. My name is Angie and I'll be happy to assist you today.

I have been able to confirm that the sellers account has recently been
taken over, and the auction is a fake. We have already taken action to
restore this account to it's owners.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but would like to thank you for
bringing this account to our attention. It's members like you that help
us keep eBay safe and vibrant for our Community.

Thank you for writing in and please don't hesitate to contact me again
if you have any additional questions or concerns.

Regards,

Angie K.
Trust & Safety Team

**Dustie** · 30th April 2008, 04:41 PM

Just curious to know if anyone knows the outcome for those guys that paid money to this conman! Sounds like ebay could have prevented at least some of them from loosing money with this guy!

**petersemple** · 30th April 2008, 05:01 PM

Happened to me once - had my ebay acocunt hijacked. My own fault really - beware of what you click on in emails. At least in my case the creep got busted and my account was returned to me before any of the auctions finished and no-one was out any money.

Peter

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