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    Hi Ratbag.

    Then would not the Festool T-12 or C-12 be what you are describing? Both also 10.8V with 3.0Ah batteries... smallish, lightweight, faster, fully capable drills with long run-time.

    As Festool have those types of drills already, and bigger again, and impact, and rattlers, they produce the CXS to be even smaller and lighter, catering to those who already own bigger/faster/longer drills and want an alternative, or for those who don't need bigger/faster/longer drills at all.

    One thing I have to disagree on is the T format versus C format and which is better for drilling and screwing. I'm a big believer that the C is superior over the T for most tasks - at least the way these drills are applied to my projects. But I'm pretty sure that discussion has been covered in other threads.

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    Default A question of Balance.

    After having used my CSX a bit more I have found that how you hold it affects the balance in your hand.

    For me, I have taken to a "choke" hold in that my right finger lies along the side of the drill in the same axis as the motor. I operate the trigger with my middle finger. From an ergonomic view this puts the centre line of the drill and my wrist much more in alignment, reducing fatigue and providing a better feel. At first it felt a little strange but now that I have adapted, it feels very much more comfortable. Adaption took a couple of days of intermittent use.

    I have not gone back and tried this on a larger battery drill (Hey, I have a CSX why would I go back to a larger heavier drill unless I need to???)

    I am not going to claim to have invented this grip. I may have seen it elsewhere. I can definitely recommend it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theberylbloke View Post
    After having used my CSX a bit more I have found that how you hold it affects the balance in your hand.

    For me, I have taken to a "choke" hold in that my right finger lies along the side of the drill in the same axis as the motor. I operate the trigger with my middle finger. From an ergonomic view this puts the centre line of the drill and my wrist much more in alignment, reducing fatigue and providing a better feel. At first it felt a little strange but now that I have adapted, it feels very much more comfortable. Adaption took a couple of days of intermittent use.

    I have not gone back and tried this on a larger battery drill (Hey, I have a CSX why would I go back to a larger heavier drill unless I need to???)

    I am not going to claim to have invented this grip. I may have seen it elsewhere. I can definitely recommend it!

    Cheers

    The Beryl Bloke
    I'm glad someone brought this up.

    This type of hold is the best thing about the C-series drills, being bale to comfortably hold the drill behind the centre line of the bit/shaft/gearbox/motor. i note that most people who grip the C-series drills this way do not even notice they are pulling the trigger with fingers other than their trigger finger, yet it's naturally comfortable and you don't need to cock your wrist to apply force behind the bit.

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    Naturally your arm and in many cases your shoulder are automatically behind the bit and you get good pressure without as much strain of the wrist as you need to do with a T style drill body. But if you want to hold a C-series drill like a T type drill, you can do this as well.

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    Best of both worlds really.

    If you have not guesses, I am very biased toward these C-series drills (including the CSX) because of this ease of use. But I recognise some will still prefer a T handle regardless as it's so familiar to them.

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    Ordered one last night, I said to SWMBO I'd never buy Festool they cost too much, now I'm going to own one, I hope I can stop at one or I'm down the slippery slope.

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