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13th September 2023, 08:15 PM #1Intermediate Member
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Domino into melamine
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I have a domino machine and I want to use it to make built ins for all the rooms. I am planning on using some melamine from the big box and using to domino for any shelving. What would be the longevity of the bits plunging into melamine? Napkin maths tells me I would use at least 200 5 x 30. Where its a blind panel I will just use 2 I think for alignment and the others 5.
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13th September 2023, 10:32 PM #2Senior Member
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It's chipboard, right? You'll need to be really careful of racking the units off perpendicular when assembling and lifting them.
I fitted out our walk-in-robe with that board, just used chipboard screws and the little screw-head covers. Add clothes and you don't see many of them. It is a very tight space and fitting the upright panels first and then fitting the shelves made it possible
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13th September 2023, 11:29 PM #3Intermediate Member
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Yes it is melamine coated particle board. I will be using some sort of backing sheet.
For the kids rooms we will have 2 1200mm cabinets separated by a desk. So two end panels will be seen either side of the desk. I am going to minimize the amount of dominos if I can by using screws.
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13th September 2023, 11:43 PM #4
Just use 50 mm chipboard screws, either countersunk or with those little plastic caps. Space the screws 150-200 mm apart, and not closer than 50 mm from a corner.
in my view, the chipboard would not be strong enough to hold a mortise for a domino tenon.
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14th September 2023, 10:16 AM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Just a tip when screwing close to the corner attach a small clamp and you will avoid any splitting.
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16th September 2023, 09:54 PM #6
if your doing the cheaper route becuse of economics consider MDF. lot lot stronger than chipboard.
I get lots of 'used' cover sheets from local cabinet makers usually around $10 full sheet and that $$ goes into their 'christmas' fundI would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds
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17th September 2023, 02:13 AM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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short answer not very long.
I've made some forms turned on a lathe using chipboard. I was sharpening my chisels every 10 mins or so in order to keep turning, so its def hard on the tools.
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17th September 2023, 05:55 AM #8GOLD MEMBER
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I wouldn’t even be concerned about the cutter, just go ahead and build them as planned. You cut up alll the melamine sheets with a tungsten saw blade or CNC cutter bit, the Domino is just doing the same.
Just do it!
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18th September 2023, 10:00 AM #9Intermediate Member
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Ah, yes I didn't realise that the cutters were carbide tipped.
The dominos will mostly support in shear so if a 5mm shelf pin supports a normal shelf, I suppose a 4mm or 5mm domino will be more then adequate. I will offset them and leave more material at the top. 6-5-5. I might do a test and use some poly glue and a domino and see how that goes.
Thanks to all for the valuable input.
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19th September 2023, 03:03 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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The evolution of particle board fixing has been an interesting one. Nails, cam locks, screws, glue, dowels, and dominos. All have their pros and cons. A fixing nail gun and a battery driver saves a lot of time and a lot of mess. A couple of thin nails shot in (if not visible) to hold the panel and finish with chipboard screws. No glue, no mess, no clean up, no drying time, on to the next one.
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19th September 2023, 05:10 PM #12
Please keep us posted with the results, Ardep.
With those 5mm shelf pins, you have 16 mm chipboard plus the surface melamine sitting on the pins.
With a centred domino, you have only 5.5 mm chipboard above and below the domino - big difference. You probably could offset it a little more than you have suggested, say 8-5-3.
The ultimate for strength might be to leave the dominos exposed - domino shelf pins - and then sit the shelf wholly on top.
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23rd September 2023, 12:25 AM #13Intermediate Member
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With a centred domino
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3rd October 2023, 06:42 PM #14
A couple of things…you can put a small bit of 2 or 3 mm plastic or wood over the depth steps on the side to get an intermediate centre height. I have used that method on literally thousands of domino cuts. See photo
If you are worried about dulling your Festool cutter you can always buy a CMT version for less money, but I expect that you won’t see any noticeable difference after your project.It's all part of the service here at The House of Pain™
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