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    Default Domino use at The Wood Whisperer blog video

    "For the very first time on The Wood Whisperer, we are going to build a full piece of furniture. I had a commission recently for a beautiful Arts & Crafts table made of alder. Only problem was, I needed to get it done quickly. And unfortunately, trying to film a podcast at the same time would prove detrimental to my promised time-frame. But since I felt this was a great project for you to see, I filmed as much as a I could and as fast as I could. So if things look a bit rushed or not as polished as usual, cut me a little slack.
    Here’s the final cut list: Table 36″W x 72″L (4) Legs: 29 1/4″L x 3″W x 3″T (2) Long Aprons: 64″L x 3 1/2″W x 3/4″T (4) Short Aprons: 28″L x 3 1/2″W x 3/4″T (8) Side Slats: 16 1/4″L x 3″W x 1/2″ T
    Note: I will be using the Festool Domino to construct this entire project. If you plan on cutting traditional integral tenons for this project, please include 3″ extra length on all apron pieces for 1 1/2″ tenons, and 2″ extra length on all side slats for 1″ tenons."
    I'm downloading the videos now, so I can't say how good/useful they are; but I was interested to see the use of the Domi...

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    The Woodwhisperer is excellent

    Highly recommended check him out on:

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    I couldn't play it, windows says it does not recognise the file type....what did you blokes do?
    "the bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten"

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    There is a mp4 amd a mov download for most videos at WW. The mp4 plays on Nero on my machine and the mov file plays on Quicktime.
    Les

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    Part 3 where the Domino is being used is now on-line. But Marc is also using a biscuitjoiner for the table top. Shame on him when he has access to a Domi .

    Guess he still has to get rid of his supply of biscuits nr. 20 before he throws that machine away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuma View Post
    Guess he still has to get rid of his supply of biscuits nr. 20 before he throws that machine away.
    He obviously isn't part of a forum such as this where the new domi owners give their poorer biscuit joiner brethren a box of biscuits they will no longer use.

    (I'm doing my darndest but that was a lot of biscuits for a hobbiest - thanks again Lignum )

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    Nope, I had it entirely right (check the comments on part #3) :

    "thewoodwhisperer on March 1, 2007 6:33 pm
    Hey mark. I certainly could have used the Domino to align my boards. To be honest, the Domino will most likely replace my biscuit joiner in almost all tasks. But the truth is I have a drawer that is full of biscuits. My family knows I always need biscuits so guess what I find in my Christmas stocking every year? Yep. More biscuits. So it was really a practicality issue.
    Marc"

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    Well,
    what is wrong with using existing biscuit stock. He only used the biscuit to line up the boards, and not for gluing strength. Dominos will not strengthen a long grain to long grain glue up.
    Les

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    Would I be correct in saying that in general, a biscuit is half the cost of a Domino? A domino being about $0.10 each and a biscuit is around $0.05?

    When you multiply this factor biscuits work out cheaper and for joining panels and using biscuits or domino's simply for aligning purposes, I find the biscuiter is cheaper and faster.

    When plunging the Domino into dense timbers, you have to take it slow and keep an even feed rate, else it chatters a lot. With a biscuiter and a sharp cutter, you can chew through any timber much faster.

    So I think it makes sense to keep your biscuiter for those purposes as its cheaper and faster, as well preserving the longevity of the precious.
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    I certainly agree with what you are saying there Martrix, if I had a domino I would still use my biscuit jointer for joining panels, tabletops and benchtops. I would say the the strength of the join comes from the glue you use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martrix View Post
    Would I be correct in saying that in general, a biscuit is half the cost of a Domino? A domino being about $0.10 each and a biscuit is around $0.05?

    When you multiply this factor biscuits work out cheaper and for joining panels and using biscuits or domino's simply for aligning purposes, I find the biscuiter is cheaper and faster.

    When plunging the Domino into dense timbers, you have to take it slow and keep an even feed rate, else it chatters a lot. With a biscuiter and a sharp cutter, you can chew through any timber much faster.

    So I think it makes sense to keep your biscuiter for those purposes as its cheaper and faster, as well preserving the longevity of the precious.
    I can't speak from experience, but the guys are raving about the perfect alignment of the boards vs biccies - that is the big time saving in having perfect, almost invisible joins, first time. None of the pro's seem to mind the extra cost of any part of the Dom.
    The only way to get rid of a [Domino] temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde

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    First of all there is nothing wrong with using biscuits versus dominos, it was just a pun... For some serious alignment I think you're better of by using a special routerbit for glue ups on a routertable with featherboards (horizontal and vertical).

    To get my boards aligned perefctly (to a thickness of 35 mm) I use a Festool glueing bit in my router table... If the height of the bit is set right and the boards are joined and planed you'll get a flat fit you've never seen before.... That's because there is created some extra glueing surface along the whole length of the boards which also takes care for the alignement. When you aply the pressure from the clamps at the side of the boards the boards get aligned perfectly:

    Beats domies and biscuits until the maximum thickness of the routing bit. Just a thought if you want to do some serious table top production.

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    The whole point about the use of biccies at the wood whisperer is that Marc stated that he still had a big surplus of biccies that he wanted to use up, but did state that the Domi would be his tool of choice.
    Les

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    Default He also said that The Dom saved one day's work, on one table!

    That is about 2 weekend's work for me , allowing for normal interruptions.
    The only way to get rid of a [Domino] temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde

    .....so go4it people!

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    Default Downloading files

    Is there any way to down load the files and look at them later. I could not find any way to do it.

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