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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lignum
    Geez id love one so much and i know it would be sensational for what i do. But im strugling with the idea one tool for 1200 or two others for 600 each:confused:
    Damn the expense, buy it. "Quality is remembered long after yada yada.."
    Then, we can all be jealous. Seriously, the quality and amount of furniture that you produce would, I think, justify it. Do some sums - if the efficiency pays you back over say 1 year, and the tool lasts for say 10, you're winning! One thing - the max. length of tenon is 25mm - is that enough?
    One more thing - our dealer is selling the thing inlcuding the box of tennons and the bits for $1200.

    Hey Martin - my 8yr old Panasonic's batteries are rooted - did you have to replace yours?
    The only way to get rid of a [Domino] temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde

    .....so go4it people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TassieKiwi

    Hey Martin - my 8yr old Panasonic's batteries are rooted - did you have to replace yours?
    My original Panasonic has NiCd batteries and I'm on my 3rd set. The nature of the battery means they don't last that long. The drill still works great but I now use it as a back up and second drill. My current Panasonic has NiMH cells and is only a few years old but still holds its charge like new.

    Martin.

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    Ah. What are they worth? Do you re-cell them or get aftermarket jobs?
    The only way to get rid of a [Domino] temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde

    .....so go4it people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TassieKiwi
    Ah. What are they worth? Do you re-cell them or get aftermarket jobs?
    The second one I bought new for $96 (ouch). The third one I re-celled for significantly less.

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    Default Back on topic

    Can't wait to see a GMC equivalent of the domino.
    I'll buy the first Domino knock off that hits the shelf.

    I reckon it will be under $300. The dust extraction will be rubbish and it'll be noisy enough to wake the dead, but I'll still get one.
    Specializing in O positive timber stains

  7. #21
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    Default I finally got hold of my Domino!

    Hello again, i refer to my previous post in which i was saying that in Brussels there were then no more Dominos to be found ( sold out ). I finally got mine today together with a Dominos full systainer. Regretably there were still out of 2 accessories ( guides ) for which i will have to wait another 2 weeks.

    Too early to tell about my experience but i have a project next week for which i shall use my Domino. I shall keep you informed.

    The seller told me that throughout the world they sold in 3 months the amount of Dominos they had forecast for one year. They are working 3 shifts in an effort to increase production capacity.

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    Thank you martini for your reasoned reply. I have read about the domino machine and admired it at a distance. As with all Festool, you get what you pay for, and the domino is expensive. I am most interested in your comments about the overlap of the use of this tool with a horizontal slot mortiser. I don't have either machine but have wondered whether it would be "better" to put my money towards the slot mortiser rather than the domino, assuming that I don't need the portability.

    So, how much faster is the domino compared to a dedicated mortising machine? And, aside from speed, is there any application where the domino can outperform a mortiser?

    Thanks again for the info. Regards

  10. #24
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    Lucky Duck - just get the free CD from Festool, or watch it online at
    http://www.festool.com.au/artikel/ar...ten.cfm?id=431
    "the bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten"

  11. #25
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    Default Domino problem

    I have unpacked my domino this morning and did a couple of quick little jobs to get used to the machine ( panels assembly ). I can tell it is fast and accurate when using stops included.

    However i have a problem when setting the height of the panels. I was working with 25mm MDF panels. So i set the height at 25 ( preset ) and i mortise only to discover that the hole is off-centered by 2.5mm. I have tried to set it manually and i get the same result. I have called the guys at Festool Brussels but i am not satisfied with their answer which is basically: you have to work like you worked with a Lamello ( only one side assembly ). Then they say it is not important that the hole is not centered...

    Whilst i can understand this my question is why then providing a preset scale as well as a precise visual manual scale? Also where is the advantage compared to a Lamello mortiser?

    Am i missing something here? :confused:

    Thanks for yr help.

    riri

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    Quote Originally Posted by riri
    Am i missing something here? :confused:
    About A$1200 I think

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    Riri

    Bon Jour, Goede Dag

    Crickey you had me worried there. I have just tripped over my trusty dog Simou and almost spilt a glass of the finest Malt in my haste to run to the workshop and test the Domino. Praise be to the Lord and all in Festool Heaven for she is OK! The cut is dead centre using all of the depth marks and all of the different cutters. I can only think that you have a faulty one or, and without wishing to be in any way rude, are you plunging your cut using the top plate or resting on the base plate? The centre point is found from the top plate and if you plunge using the bottom plate of the Domino on material up to 40mm you will never get a true centre. Just a thought and I am sorry if you are doing that.

    Regards

    Tot Ziens, Au Revoir

    Pat

    Simou! Noch eine Talisker. Ohne eis.

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    Default Dominos problem

    Hello Patr,

    Thanks for sharing my concern. I have actually tried both ways and it is roughly the same. It then looks like i do have a faulty one :eek: . I am having someone from Festool coming over tomorrow to check this matter out. I shall keep you informed. Meanwhile do not spoil anymore of that scotch!

    Bye, bonsoir

    riri

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    Default Domino's problem

    The guy from Festool just left. He can't figure this out. He first said: "you never gonna get this mortaise centered it is not made for". Why is it better than the Lamello then was my answer!!!

    He had to agree that something is wrong when i showed him that sometimes you can...have it dead centered!

    The preset scale is right ( although not for all measurements ). The strange thing is that when you preset it at 25mm you only have 22.5mm clearance measured between the resting plate and the bottom...

    The visual scale is wrong and with mine ( and his ) it is impossible to get it centered when you take half of the thickness of the board.

    My quick method of letting the resting plate "freefall" on the board to get the precise thickness and then block it with the lever is also wrong.

    The Festool man is going to put the question to Festool Germany.

    I'll keep you posted.

    riri

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    Hi Riri

    Thank you for your concern over the Malt. Luckily none was spilt as my wife threw herself on the floor to break my fall. Winded her a bit but the Malt is £28 a bottle and that would have been a disaster.

    You are right saying when set at 25mm the measurement from resting plate to bottom plate is 22.5mm. This is because the only constant distance is from the bottom plate to the centre of the cutting bit. It is exactly 10mm and never changes. The height adjustment, whether manual or using presets, is from the top resting plate to the centre of the cutting bit so when you select 25mm, the distance from the top resting plate to the cutter bit centre is 12.5mm. Add the 10mm from the cutter bit centre to the bottom base plate and you have your overall measurement of 22.5mm.

    This is why when you wish to centre your domino hole into your material you must rest the top plate on to the material and not the base. If you have 25mm MDF and set the preset scale to 25mm you only alter the top plate by 12.5mm. It is impossible, unless you have vertical movement in your cutter bit, not to centre your hole. If you set the preset to 40mm, measure the distance from the top plate to the centre of the cutting bit and it will be 20mm: from top to bottom it will be 30mm.

    Hope this is of help and in honour of Belgium, where two of my sons were born when I was stationed in Herentals and Mons, I shall drink to your health with a small selection of Trappist Beers. First a Westmalle Trippel, then a Chimay Bleu followed by a cheeky Orval. Then I shall be very, very drunk!

    Tot ziens, Bon Nuit

    Pat

    Simou! Une Duval pour moi, une Frambois por Mama.

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