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    Default festool tool with no earth??

    Why does festool kapex have no earth connected?

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    Hi,
    It is probably double insulated. Check the label for the double insulated sign, a square with a smaller square inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Duke View Post
    Hi,
    It is probably double insulated. Check the label for the double insulated sign, a square with a smaller square inside.
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    Correct, the Kapex is double insulated and therefore the earth is not connected

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    Hi brett

    Thanks for that

    Is this the bret that was at the timber and working with wood show sydney?

    Cheers

    Bryan

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    Hi Bryan

    No I was not at the show in Sydney, my colleagues tell me the event was great

    We find shows good fun, catching up and talking to users of the product we all agree is the best part

    I hope you enjoyed it

    Brett

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    Virtually all portable electrical tools (and many portable electrical appliances) are double insulated. It is a legal requirement that the appliance be denoted with a symbol as such on the type plate with two squares, one inside the other.

    This means that there is an additional layer of non-conductive shielding around all live parts.

    It is actually extremely dangerous (and illegal) to retrofit an earth to these appliances.

    Some appliances that are typically not dbl. ins. are heaters, toasters, ovens etc. that have their chassis and other exposed conductive parts earthed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbag View Post
    Virtually all portable electrical tools (and many portable electrical appliances) are double insulated. It is a legal requirement that the appliance be denoted with a symbol as such on the type plate with two squares, one inside the other.
    Or the words "Double Insulated".

    Where you have a three pin outlet, the earth must be connected, eg on the Festool dust extractors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyjack View Post
    Or the words "Double Insulated".

    Where you have a three pin outlet, the earth must be connected, eg on the Festool dust extractors.
    Absolutely. The extractor is, in effect, just another "extension cord". There's no way of determining whether appliances plugged inline to the vac will be earthed or not, so an earth connected through to the outlet is mandatory.

    Standard vacs are double insulated; Wet & Dry vacs, auto dust extractors and those with metallic casings are earthed to the chassis, any power outlets and outer conductive parts.
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    ok cool

    however I want a 3pin plug on the kapex a 2pin looks and also tends to fall out

    Thanks for the replies


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan1982 View Post
    ok cool

    however I want a 3pin plug on the kapex a 2pin looks and also tends to fall out

    Thanks for the replies


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    Puting a 3 pin plug on the lead is no gaurentee that the plug will not fall out of the socket.

    If you splay the pins ever so gently so they are pointing inwards will give a better grip is a better option, it does not need much but is an easy fix.
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    It could also be your GPO/extension cord socket is slack. They do wear out (cheap ones usually faster than better quality ones) and it may need to be replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    It could also be your GPO/extension cord socket is slack. They do wear out (cheap ones usually faster than better quality ones) and it may need to be replaced.
    Slack contact = heat build up and as most sockets and plugs are made of dodgy plastic could = excitement.
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    Do it if you want. You don't need an Electrician's licence to exchange/swap out plugs in domestic appliances.

    The instructions are on the packaging: just ensure you follow the recommended colour coding and stripping lengths to ensure safe contact of Active & Neutral wires (Red or brown to Active, Black or Blue to Neutral; Active is left pin FROM THE BACK, Neutral is right pin FROM THE BACK).
    Also don't forget to put the clamp nut on the cable first then the cover BEFORE connection. After 50 odd years and hundreds of times I still occasionally forget!
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