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Thread: Using the 4mm Domino
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8th September 2009, 05:15 PM #1
Using the 4mm Domino
I had a problem with constructing a picture frame for someone. The frame is 30mm wide and 20mm deep.
The issue was to use the Domino to provide strength to the joint, but not cut into the rebate or the outer edge of the frame.
A 5mm Domi is too big to fit that set of requirements. So I bought a 4mm Domino cutter and a bag of 450 4mm dominoes ( really, they're way too small to be away from their mother!) and set to.
Pic 1 shows the profile of the rebate on the inner frame.
Pic 2 shows the reate end on. Unfortunately. you can't make out the mitre too well.
Pic 3 shows the mortise
Pic 4 shows the completed joint.
A word to the wise. Since this cutter only cuts to 10mm deep. I thought it would be fine to use the 15mm depth set. Wrong!!! I had to use the 20mm cut set to achieve the 10mm depth with the cutter.
The uses of the 4mm are many. But for me, 4mm splines on box corners, ability to reinforce frame joints and 4mm inlay dados are enough to make me happy. And with 450 in a bag, I don't think I'll run out in a hurry.
Regards,
Rob
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9th September 2009, 11:50 AM #2Senior Member
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Hi Rob, thanks for posting. I have question, why didn't the 15mm depth work?
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9th September 2009, 12:35 PM #3
I am only guessing but probably because the 4mm cutter is short and therefore has to be plunged further even to start the cut.
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9th September 2009, 12:50 PM #4
I think you might be right, Mat. The cut using the 15mm depth stop gives a 7mm deep mortise. As you go further up the depth stop setting, the further out the cutter projects from the tool.
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9th September 2009, 12:58 PM #5
You will find that the instructions on the box (not that anyone is going to read them ) clarifies that the cutter is really to be used with the Domino depth set to 20mm. In order to get a 10mm mortise.
I assume this is because the the cutter being only 4mm thick and solid carbide had to be kept short to avoid breaking under load. Therefore the need to set the Domino machine at the deeper setting to compensate for this short cutter. But I am only second guessing the Festool engineers reasons here.
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9th September 2009, 05:27 PM #6
Anthony
There is nothing on my cutters box to indicate this. The folded paper info placed inside the back cardboard "display" upright has "Safety instructions cutter" with no mention of the depth required.
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9th September 2009, 05:39 PM #7
Just to clarify the box my cutter came in is a plastic display box with a clear top and the festool grey base. It has a hanging cutout on the top of the plastic section. I did not get it in a cardboard box.
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9th September 2009, 06:07 PM #8
You right Mat. Now I feel like a doofus. The instructions about depth 10mm setting are on neither the cutter, or bag of 4mm dominos. They might be under the lid of the Domino Accessory Systainer (new version with 4mm cutter), but I will have to check when I am at the shop tomorrow.
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10th September 2009, 12:53 PM #9Senior Member
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11th September 2009, 07:49 PM #10
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11th September 2009, 08:08 PM #11
http://www.toologics.com/News/Cool_T...907271481.html
This link goes into a little detail on using the 4mm dominos and the cutter,with thanks to Tool King.com
HTH
CheersJohnno
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11th September 2009, 08:31 PM #12
Hi John,
Here is a little more info.
Regards,
Anthony
The new included Domino fence, which can be purchased separately (495 348), is backward compatible with existing Domino joiners and features square stop flaps which offer improvements over the previous round pins. The square stop flaps are less likely to get caught unintentionally in adjacent mortises and are less likely to be affected by glue residue. The new fence incorporates an improved clear plastic cursor which is now extended further to improve mark alignment.
The new included Base Support Bracket, which can be purchased separately (495 666), is backward compatible with existing Domino joiners and offers additional support across the face of the fence. The new Base Support Bracket now includes integrated flip stops which allow mortises to be plunged closer to the edge of the material. This is particularly useful for narrow workpieces. When using the flip stops, the center of the cut is 20mm from the edge versus 37mm without. The flip stops offer optimal flexibility when using the new 4mm Domino cutter and tenons.
The New Domino 4mm Cutter & Tenons
The Domino now offers five (5) cutter sizes and seven (7) tenon sizes to suit a variety of applications depending on material thickness.
The newest addition to the Domino family is the new 4mm cutter and tenons. We like to call them "tiny tenons". You will notice that the new 4mm cutter is shorter than other Domino cutters. This is required to accommodate the shallow plunge depth.
This new cutter and tenon size expand on the versatility and functionality of the Domino joiner.
Product Name Product No.
4mm Domino Cutter 495 663
4 x 20mm Domino Tenons, 450-Pack 495 661
Drawer Boxes from 1/2" Stock
One of the most obvious applications for the new 4mm Domino accessories is creating drawer boxes from 1/2" material. Use the 4mm cutter and set your Domino joiner to the 20mm plunge depth setting. Because the 4mm cutter is shorter than other cutters, the actual resulting plunge depth will be only 10mm.
For a through tenon, set the plunge depth to 15mm instead and use your Festool Sander to sand the tenon flush to the surface.
Inside & Outside Radius Corners
Another application for the new 4mm tenons is forming mouldings for radius corners on walls and furniture. The shorter tenons provide the perfect solution for sturdy joints.
Solutions.
The new 4mm Domino cutter and tenons have broadened the capabilities of this brilliantly simple joiner. Whether you use it for mouldings, furniture, picture frames, drawer boxes, or decorative boxes the Domino is sure to exceed your demands and your expectations.
Start working faster, easier, and smarter with the new 4mm Domino cutter and tenons!
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11th September 2009, 09:26 PM #13
Thankyou Anthony for the effort.
Greenie applied for tasking this.
CheersJohnno
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11th September 2009, 09:54 PM #14
Thanks Anthony - good to see that Festool are ahead of the game !
Order placed today for the 4mm kit that you are offering (plus some bags for my CT-Midi...)
Cheers
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11th September 2009, 10:00 PM #15
Thanks John - no problem. I will sink the Greenie most promptly.
Thanks Mr Brush - I will get your gear out as soon as the above mentioned Greenie goes down. Won't be long.
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