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    Default 19mm steel rod - Where to get some

    Hi,
    I am restoring a Buffalo Forge Post drill. (see Picture!)Buffalo drill 2.jpg
    The axle on which the Fly wheel and cog spin is rather battered and a bit corroded. It is 19mm diameter X 185mm. I presume that the rod is really 3/4 inch. It was very hard to remove and doesn't quite want to fit back into its hole.
    Can anyone help me by recommending a place where I can buy a suitable replacement? I am located in Oakleigh, a suburb of Melbourne.
    Is there a special type of steel I should be asking for?

    Thank you
    Cheers,
    Steck

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    Handy Steel Stocks in Heidelberg are pretty good.
    http://handysteel.com.au
    They cut to length, free delivery, no minimum order, competitive price, quote before order.
    No connection, just a happy customer.
    Cheers,
    Greg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwijibo99 View Post
    ...They cut to length, free delivery, no minimum order, competitive price, quote before order.
    Well you can't ask for fairer than that.

    However, if you want I'll check out the spare flywheel shaft I have. It's ex a Canadian Blower & Forge No.61 post drill - which is/was the Canadian division of Buffalo Forge.

    Cheers, Vann.

    ps That looks complete and should come up nicely. What model is it? More photos please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwijibo99 View Post
    Handy Steel Stocks in Heidelberg are pretty good.
    http://handysteel.com.au
    They cut to length, free delivery, no minimum order, competitive price, quote before order.
    No connection, just a happy customer.
    Cheers,
    Greg.
    Free delivery on a 185mm long piece of 19mm bar??

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    Even closer to you:

    Lockbar Steel and Aluminium
    2 Barlow Ave
    Cheltenham VIC

    ph: 9584 8777

    I don't think they have a minimum order.

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    Hello Steck,

    I have the same drill. Call out if you need any close up photos or measurements.

    Bob


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    Is Ungar metal still on Warrigal Rd near Holmesglen ?

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    I have fired of an email to the Handy Steel people. We'll see how that goes?

    Thanks Vann for the offer. If I cant source it locally, I may take you up on it!

    Bob, My drill is very very close to yours. The only difference I can see is in the slider on the top of the rotating/sliding drill shaft.

    Thank you to all posters!

    The drill is a Buffalo Forge Company no. 612. I picked it up for $20 along with a Globe Post Drill which is in much worse condition.
    The Buffalo is intact but was very seized up, without much pitting!
    Attached is a photo of the drill after 4 days in my home made Electrolysis bath. All the screws and bolts then came out easily but the shaft and gears were still frozen. It came out of the bath much improved.
    Over the next 2 weeks I used a combination of degreasers, penetrating oils, Freeze and release, and a flame gun to get it apart. I even converted my Hammer Drill to the task!

    Buffalo Drill 3.jpg
    Cheers,
    Steck

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    What a metamorphosis Steck! Hard to believe it's the same drill.

    I just slipped up to the shed. Mine's a 611. In 1929 these drills were fitted with ball thrust bearings, the 611 was called a 611-R, the 612 stayed just that. I don't recall finding a ball bearing on the spindle. A bit more here - http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=4907

    Bob.

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    This guy might be closer? They cut to size and buy whatever quality you want/need.
    http://www.steelsolutions.com.au/

    3/4-6 Awun Ct, Springvale VIC 3171
    (03) 9562 4778

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackaroo View Post
    This guy might be closer? They cut to size and buy whatever quality you want/need.
    http://www.steelsolutions.com.au/

    3/4-6 Awun Ct, Springvale VIC 3171
    (03) 9562 4778
    Bingo!!
    I sent off a few emails and Steel Solutions replied in under 10 minutes. I drove round there and they cut to size and charged me $3.
    Cheers,
    Steck

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    Nice score, especially since it was complete and you got a second drill for $20

    Keep the progress photos coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    Hello Steck,

    I have the same drill. Call out if you need any close up photos or measurements.

    Bob


    Hi all,
    progress on this drill has been slow but it's coming along. I have a question about the arm that moves the top wheel to lower the drill. Mine is seized. I assume that the toggle flips over to engage the wheel. Can anyone fill me in on how it works?
    thanks
    Steve
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    Cheers,
    Steck

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    The pawl rocks on the pivotal rivet. The ball end is a weight bringing the pawl back to centre and as the arm moves over the cam on the main cog the point end acts as a ratchet on the top feed wheel.
    …..Live a Quiet Life & Work with your Hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    The pawl rocks on the pivotal rivet. The ball end is a weight bringing the pawl back to centre and as the arm moves over the cam on the main cog the point end acts as a ratchet on the top feed wheel.
    Aah! It begins to make sense! I can't loosen my "pawl" (new word to add to the vocabulary!) That's the bit that's seized.
    I may have to cut the rivet to remove it and then replace it. Any advice on this????
    Thanks for the info.
    Cheers,
    Steck

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