Thread: 2nd Melbourne Scraping Class.

I am quite interested in this. I am however extremely inexperienced with machining and know absolutely nothing about scraping. From what I read of its uses however I am seriously considering flying over from Adelaide. The idea of being able to make precisely flat surfaces with minimal equipment is very appealing to me. That said given my inexperience (and the fact that I am relatively unfit). Would this class be wasted on me? What do you guys think?

Stinger.

Originally Posted by Stinger.au

and know absolutely nothing about scraping.

That’s the way I like it.

Without going into too many personal specifics. What’s the limitation with the fitness? (Private message me or email, if you don’t want to blurt it out here). For what we will be doing over that weekend, its not extremely physical. I dont think we broke a sweat last time?

That limitation wouldn’t want to be an arm, shoulder or back injury. It all happens with the upper body.

As too previous experience, in this country, you wont find any. There’s probably less than a dozen guys in the country, that can do it at a commercial level. Some European toolmakers and trades that learnt it as an apprentice, and a couple of dozen resurrector’s, like the guys from the last class.

As long as you have a reasonable mechanical aptitude.

Joe’s probably better placed to give an opinion, on your health issues.

Regards Phil.

I will raise my hand for one also Phil. Please..
BT

No,no, nothing quite so dramatic. I will likely just get tired quickly as I sit at a desk all day at work, but I suppose the aim of the course is technique more than completing the block in its entirety.

Hello Phil

Do you have enough bodies for a second class? If so when might that be? I won't be able to make it in April unfortunately.

I would like to buy an insert.

Garry

Look guys, don't panic! It is a fairly physical activity but I have to admit I was a bit more worried about that aspect before the last course than necessary.
I had been practicing before the course and found myself flagging - until I was shown the right technique.
Over the course weekend and doing the numerous surfaces I've scraped since, I haven't been sore at all.

Personally, I have a pretty bad back, had two back operations over the years, and have arthiritis everywhere that required a hip replacement 9 years ago - and I'm 61. Marko is the same age by the way.....

Stinger, you could consider it excercise and use it to get fitter

There are plenty of opportunities to take a productive break and see how others are progressing, see different aspects of the work demonstrated by Phil and Marko.
Each time you blue and check the second and third face of your block, you will be stopping scraping for a while, wander over and stand at the big granite table for a few minutes as well.

All that said, I think someone with a recent rotator cuff injury in the shoulder or an acute bursitits or a back inflammation that can't be controlled by a little Voltaren or Brufen would probably be pretty sore or not be able to keep going all day.

Hope that dispels any fears of the work involved in the training.

Cheers,
Joe

Originally Posted by Machtool

Stinger.
That’s the way I like it.

Without going into too many personal specifics. What’s the limitation with the fitness? (Private message me or email, if you don’t want to blurt it out here). For what we will be doing over that weekend, its not extremely physical. I dont think we broke a sweat last time?

That limitation wouldn’t want to be an arm, shoulder or back injury. It all happens with the upper body.

I've got a very badly smashed & reconstructed left elbow, I'm left-handed, and I didn't have any problems once I sorted out my technique.

Phil, I'd likely take another insert as well at around $40.

PDW

Originally Posted by Abratool

Phil
Any idea of price?
I would get a couple.
Bruce

Phil
My existing carbon steel scraper has lasted me for a bit over 50yrs.
So can you definitely put me down for one carbide insert.
That should last me out
regards
Bruce

Gents.

Moving on a bit, I’m moving to the next stage.

Scrapers. Several, 4 – 5 of the guys need a hand scraper. Bruce was just talking to me about making one. I’d like to dig up those photo’s / dimensions from last time, and post them here. For anyone to follow.

Ray, Joe, Rich, Stuart and others had that sort of information stowed away.

When you get a chance, can you please post them up? No rush, into the weekend would be good.

Regards Phil.

P.S I'm also trying to lay my hands on some new Sandviks at the right price.

This thread has it all - https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/ne...3/index23.html

Post 232 on page 17 shows Greg's Sandvik, 235 and 316, Richard's Anderson and then to outdo everyone, Ray's home made version, post 345.....

BT

Originally Posted by Machtool

No rush,

27 minutes later.

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

This thread has it all -

I luv the way you blokes work

That saved me a heap of leg work. I’ve extracted the direct links.

Close up of the end of Greg’s Sandvik. I’d guess that’s the middle size 620-25 being 25mm wide. They come in 20 and 30mm versions also. Shank thickness is 5mm for all of them, so 20 x 5, 25 x 5, 30 x 5.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/new-scraping-thread-136153/index6.html#post1339066

Eskimo’s Solid Anderson, I don’t think many would be making that one.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/new-scraping-thread-136153/index6.html#post1339424

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/new-scraping-thread-136153/index8.html#post1351344

An Anderson Tubular style, there’s one of those here to try out.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/new-scraping-thread-136153/index9.html#post1355071

And today’s club house leader. Rays A1, hardened and tempered, mirror polished version of a clamp style.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/new-scraping-thread-136153/index9.html#post1355185


(Adding on Edit) The business end and clamp, Ray style.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/new-scraping-thread-136153/index9.html#post1355624

Regards Phil.

P.S there’s a description on the Anderson site as to how long overall your scraper should be, for your height and reach.

http://andersonscraper.com/Anderson-Hand-Scrapers.php

Pete F also produced a version of his own -

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/scraper-mk1-138864/

If Bruce is keen to replicate a utilitarian Sandvik I can post some close ups but I think the requisite features are displayed more than adequately in the photos accompanying the previous posts and Pete's. The paint finish on the Swede would prevent rust. Maybe not an issue for an east coaster where it doesn't get hot enough to sweat.

BT

and then there is the simplified version I cooked up out of just plain mild steel flat...
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/ne...ml#post1360601

Originally Posted by jhovel

and then there is the simplified version I cooked up out of just plain mild steel flat...
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/ne...ml#post1360601

Hey Joe,

If I had kept looking I would have found your version. Sorry Mate, I simply ran out of puff.

BT