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    Default 3/4 Tap and Die Needed - Can you help!

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    My long pipe clamp fell off its wrack last night and bent/cracked then broke halfway through the thread! bugger! I managed to get the broken piece out of the pipe clamp end but I know need to cut the pipe off and start again.

    I live at Mt Ommaney, does anyone have any ideas how I can get the pipe re threaded? Its like $50 for a 3/4 die, not something I want to buy to use once or twice in my lifetime!

    If anyone can lend a hand let me know!

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    Is this the type of clamp that screws onto a 1/2" water pipe (with an OD of 3/4") ?

    If so you can usually get an older plumber to cut a new thread for you as they would still have an old fashioned threading machine or you can bring it down to Melbourne and I can do it for you.


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    BTW I hope you don't use it whilst woodturning

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    If you don't want to drive so far I'll do it.......

    Do you know what the thread is? I have some old dies all imp and would be happy to send you one, but you would need a stock to hold it. I don't think I have one big enough that I could lend you. I'll check.....

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    I recently cut some threads in some 20 mm pipe for a set of 6 of these clamps.

    the thread is 3/4" BSP 14TPI.

    I have the full set of BSP T&D and would cut this for you but its a long way from Brisie to here.

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    Hi Milo, I'm not far away - I have both a tap & die here - somewhere amongst my dear old Dad's stuff.

    Regards, Daryl
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    Have you considered just buying another piece of black or gal pipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipeclay View Post
    Have you considered just buying another piece of black or gal pipe.
    Agree. Sometimes you need to ask yourself just what you're trying to achieve.

    Alternatively if you really have far, far, far more time than money, insist on salvaging the pipe for historical/sentimental/money reasons - use a triangular file and file out the burrs etc.

    Not like it's a critical fit thread or anything.

    Personally I'd just buy a new length of pipe and save asking favours of strangers for something worthwhile.

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    One more possibility is to weld another section of threaded pipe on to the trimmed end. That is if you can find a threaded piece. Various lengths of galv pipe threaded both ends are available from the plumbing stores/departments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    Agree. Sometimes you need to ask yourself just what you're trying to achieve.

    Alternatively if you really have far, far, far more time than money, insist on salvaging the pipe for historical/sentimental/money reasons - use a triangular file and file out the burrs etc.

    Not like it's a critical fit thread or anything.

    Personally I'd just buy a new length of pipe and save asking favours of strangers for something worthwhile.

    PDW
    Jeez I thought the point about being on this forum is helping people (including strangers!) out no matter how trivial the request! I find your tone slightly offensive as I would help ANYONE out for ANYTHING.....isn't that the Aussie spirit!?

    Since joining this forum I have responded to a lot of people asking simple (trivial) questions and have even had newbies come round the house to joint/plane stock etc....

    But thanks for your opinion, dually noted. Don't even retort...I wouldn't want to waste your time.

    Anyway, my neighbours sons best mate is a plumber and he came round last night and threaded the pipe for me all for two beers and a good yarn! the Aussie way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarBee View Post
    Hi Milo, I'm not far away - I have both a tap & die here - somewhere amongst my dear old Dad's stuff.

    Regards, Daryl 0409 343 792
    Hey Daryl

    Thanks for the offer mate! I managed to get it sorted! feel free to give me a hoi if you are ever in a bind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milo View Post
    Jeez I thought the point about being on this forum is helping people (including strangers!) out no matter how trivial the request! I find your tone slightly offensive as I would help ANYONE out for ANYTHING.....isn't that the Aussie spirit!?

    Since joining this forum I have responded to a lot of people asking simple (trivial) questions and have even had newbies come round the house to joint/plane stock etc....

    But thanks for your opinion, dually noted. Don't even retort...I wouldn't want to waste your time.
    Personally, I have more respect for my friends' time (and self-respect) to waste it on trivia that I can easily do myself.

    BTW I happily distinguish between asking for *advice* when you don't know how to do something to asking for *help* to do something that you can do yourself by spending $10, or 30 minutes with a file.

    But hey, each to their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    But hey, each to their own.
    And that's why I replied to this request, with the advice to check with an older plumber who may still have a threading tool.

    I do volunteer work at a community health service Men's shed where there are a lot of older guys and each one of them would be happy to help someone out if they could. All for feeling of use and the company. There are plumbers, electricians, mechanics and carpenters who would be happy to help if asked. Hence my suggestion to approach an older plumber.

    Also the suggestion to buy an other pipe is a bit stupid unless you know the financial circumstances of the OP for old plumbing pipe is hard to get and damn expensive.

    So yes each to their own and IMO you would have been wiser to not comment if you can't or do't want to help for your ignorance/prejudice is showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    Personally, I have more respect for my friends' time (and self-respect) to waste it on trivia that I can easily do myself.
    Hang on - isn't that what a true mate will do? - they stick to you thru thick and thin - brilliance and stupidity - good and bad.
    Well my mates will anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    Personally, I have more respect for my friends' time (and self-respect) to waste it on trivia that I can easily do myself.

    BTW I happily distinguish between asking for *advice* when you don't know how to do something to asking for *help* to do something that you can do yourself by spending $10, or 30 minutes with a file.

    But hey, each to their own.

    PDW
    PDW

    I find it quite amusing that you have the time, inclanation to even respond like this to a simple question. When since did we become friends? I thought you said we were strangers? Its only a waste of time if you choose to respond...surley? I am choosing not to take your negitivity onboard as a few that have responded to me in kind feel the same.

    I tell ya, as a woodworker I only started a few years ago, I shudder to think now the silly questions I asked when I started out! The respect and care that some seriously senior members of this forum have shown me is so heart warming and hopefully I will pass this forward to the younger generation.

    Its so energy sapping to knock someone down but so easy to simply be kind (no matter how stupid the question).

    And what? over some stranger asking if they could borrow a 3/4 die? get a life! I have no metal work experience, Gal pipe is NOT cheap and only comes in 2 m legnths at the plumbing supply shop.

    I think BobL summed it up perfectly...........BobL
    Originally Posted by PDW
    Personally, I have more respect for my friends' time (and self-respect) to waste it on trivia that I can easily do myself.





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    I am pleased to know that you have resolved your problem. If I was closer I would have offered to help as I also have a 3/4 BSP die and holder for it.

    My attitude is that helping people is the aussie way and to do so gives me a good feeling and that is good enough for me.

    As it turns out you paid for the fix with a couple of beers and a yarn which is also the aussie way. Win win situation. Great result.

    Dean

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