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Thread: Make a 5/8"tap
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25th October 2013, 11:17 AM #1
Make a 5/8"tap
hi
I am thinking of making a LH 5/8-8 ACME tap in order to make some bronze nuts .
Would silver steel be OK as a base metal ? ( chronos sells it in 12"lengths ) And, would it also tap into cast iron OK as I have some cast iron round stock as an alternative to the bronze ?
Thanks Mike
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25th October 2013, 12:30 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Siver Steel
Mike
The Silver Steel would be my first choice.
It would need to be hardened & then tempered to a dark straw or light brown after your machining work.
I will be away for a while so will be out of contact for a short time.
Hope all goes well for you.
regards
Bruce
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25th October 2013, 01:22 PM #3.
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I'd be interested to know what they charge for shipping on an item like that.
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25th October 2013, 02:56 PM #4
Lesson
here we have a lesson
http://rick.sparber.org/gt.pdf
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25th October 2013, 03:02 PM #5
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25th October 2013, 04:21 PM #6Senior Member
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You can buy one cheap enough.
Rdgtools HSS Acme Tap 5 8" x 8 TPI LH High Speed New | eBay
Don't know of the quality though.
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25th October 2013, 06:57 PM #7
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25th October 2013, 07:06 PM #8
Hi,
Mintech in Brisbane has 5/8 ' silver steel for $26 for 300mm.Postage is likely to be a bit cheaper than from Chronos.
If it helps
Grahame
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25th October 2013, 11:58 PM #9
Hi Mike,
Something Phil suggested to me when i was musing about the Rivetts screws. Turn the new screw a few inches linger than required and also leave an inch or so of plain shaft. You can then cut the extra off and make it into the tap. The tap should then make a nut that matches the screw exactly.....if you turn the screw form dead on symmetrical. I have a pic somewhere of measuring with one wire for ACME threads...i'll try and find it.
Cheers,
Ew
Found it.....1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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26th October 2013, 10:25 AM #10
Ok
OK Ewan.. I understand . Thanks for the wire measuring info drawing . I plan on using silver steel for the tap . I will make the tap using the same tool and setup I will use for making the acme leadscrew itself , so in theory they should be a match .
The only thing I am unclear on, is what size minor diameter hole do I need to bore in the blank piece of bronze for the 5/8 ACME tap ? Do I need 2-3 thou of clearance for the minor diameter of the leadscrew ? Mike
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26th October 2013, 11:13 AM #11Senior Member
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More than that. The black book suggests 10 thou top and bottom. That is, the valley is 10 thou deeper like you said, but the tap should be made 10 thou bigger than the major diameter to give relief on the top of the threads too. The only contact should be the walls of the thread.
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26th October 2013, 11:29 AM #12
I was going to make the rivetts screws from silver steel, they are only 7/16. One is LH and one is RH. You may also want to wrap the tap in stainless foil so there is no oxidizing when hardening.
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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5th November 2013, 06:44 PM #13
grinding
Hi
Been grinding the #8 ACME threading tool... it is going OK, but I need to measure the tip width . The book says it should be .041" wide .
I don't have one of those ACME thread gauges and I don't want to pay a exhorbitant price and wait 10 days for one from O/S .
Is there an easy way to measure the tip width ?
Mike
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5th November 2013, 07:14 PM #14Philomath in training
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Have a look here -
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/yo...ml#post1488715
Phil solved that issue
Michael
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5th November 2013, 07:30 PM #15
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