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Thread: Arbor hole in Saw Plate
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14th September 2012, 08:09 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Arbor hole in Saw Plate
My dilemma is that I've purchases a new (and expensive) diamond concrete saw blade from flea-bay. It was advertised as the required size: 300mm with 22.23mm arbor hole.
It actually has a 20mm hole! Rather than spend another 20 pounds in Airmail expenses to send it back, I thought that the hole could be rebored.
Unfortunately I know very little about reboring, but thought an imperial step-drill could resize it to the required 7/8" while retaining concentricity. Is this achievable with a carefully setup 1000w AEG in a bench stand on a vey low speed with plenty of Trefolex?
Or am I deluding myself?Sycophant to nobody!
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14th September 2012, 09:18 PM #2
Worth a try, of course, the saw plate will be hardened to some degree, but I'd think it's probably more like spring temper hardness, rather than cutting edge hard... You could try a small file and see how hard it is around the hole, if the file skates off, I'd say you'll probably have to grind it. A bit of carefull work with a dremel?
The other thing you could try is to heat the area you want to drill to bright red with a map torch and then cool slowly to anneal it then try and ream it to 7/8"
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Ray
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14th September 2012, 09:47 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Thats going to take a few reamers.
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14th September 2012, 11:14 PM #4
Personally i would not heat it, too much chance of it going "wobbly" as the inside expands with nowhere to go radially. Most blade blanks these days are far from hard (at least all the ones i have cut up were soft) It doesnt even really matter if you are a bit out, as soon as you wear the tips a bit the blade will re-balance itself. Just so long as its no so bad you can't use it!
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15th September 2012, 01:26 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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I would send it back at their expense as it is NOT as advertised!!!!!!
Kryn
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15th September 2012, 04:36 AM #6
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15th September 2012, 09:58 AM #7Senior Member
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Your local saw doctor, mine quoted $28 to resize a wood blade which wasn't worth it for my crap blades
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15th September 2012, 03:07 PM #9Senior Member
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Is it possible to make a new arbour to suit the 20mm blade? Maybe you could even machine the existing to 20mm and then if you need to use the 22.23 blades in the future you can use a spacer. Maybe you will find the 20mm bore is more common and you can just keep purchasing these in the future?
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15th September 2012, 05:36 PM #10
Hi
A possible method is to buy a conical shaped grinding stone ... you can get them . I've enlarged holes by using a drill and the stone , the conical shaped stone tends to self centre in the hole and it enlarges the hole .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AXOLITE-CO...item564be10d60
Mike
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17th September 2012, 09:57 AM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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I would go this way as well. I have several tapered grind stones that would easily do that job. You would have to take it slowly so you didn;t put a step in the stone.
You could also just use a plain cylindrical diamond burr and run it around the hole in a regular fashion and check it with a vernier for roundness.
If you try and drill out the centre there is a chance it could pull off centre.
Rob
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Could the method of using a tapered stone and achieveing a parallel bore be descrbed.
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17th September 2012, 10:18 AM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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You won't get a parallel bore this way, but it won't matter as the taper will be slight.
As the blade is clamped between centre discs a knife edge on the blade centre would be enought just to lightly centre it.
All the load is taken on the clamping discs.
If you want a perfect job you can easily grind the tapered disc centre out to the correct outside circumference, and then drill out the taper section on the press.
It's highly unlikely you would get any runout with the drill this way.
Rob.
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we are only talking 1.1 mm approx all the way round the outside of the hole. If the blade is not real hard, I'd be carefully marking it out and filing it with a 1/2 round file. you could probably do it in under 10 minutes.
bollie7
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