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    Does anyone know if there is span tables for steel for use in building?
    Im trying to predesign my house before handing the design to a engineer, I wish to hang a mezzaine floor from a skillion roof(8.5m span) attaching too a center spline wall in a double height room.
    I could use lvl's but that kind of rafter span with a hung weight would result in the skillion roof being too thick and chunky(dont want exposed beams or rather swmbo doesnt).
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    Yep, this should get you started. The engineer will finalise the details.

    http://www.edconsteel.com.au/pdfs/in...el_housing.pdf

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    Good information, thank you Pete.
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    Just a tip also. I'm not sure precisely what you're intending to do, but keep in mind that you can support in both compression and tension. I was watching an interesting architectural program the other day and the latter was reminded to me when they hung the end of a beam and then hid the hanger within the wall. The effect appeared to be cantilevered, but was in fact fully supported at each corner. It could be a way to significantly reduce the span without it appearing to do so.

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    The 2 beams(inside the skillion roof) will have a roof load and a single point load hanging off them aprox 3m out from the supporting wall(center spline wall), the 1st pic should give you an idea

    The roof in these pictures is way too high(still working on that...)the 4th pic is the hanging mezzanine floor this acts as a floating roof over the kitchen area, could possibly use steel cables as hanging struts
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    mmm.....An upstairs workshop, Interesting idea. How do you propose to get your machinery up there..???
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    Ah ok, looks like you're already hanging them. As a matter of interest what are you modelling with, Sketchup?

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    Its called Home Designer suite 10
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    Ok, yes I recall using a previous version of that many years ago, I'm sure it's much more powerful these days.

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    Not powerful enough for what I need!

    Seems to be aimed at common brick veneer and americain style homes, doesnt really cater for a 60's modern
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete F View Post
    Yep, this should get you started. The engineer will finalise the details.

    http://www.edconsteel.com.au/pdfs/in...el_housing.pdf

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    Can't see anything there for aluminium beams Pete...
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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    Can't see anything there for aluminium beams Pete...
    No I've got other tables for them Mind you I'd be a lot happier if I was dealing a little less in tables and a little more in metal. The aluminium beam is now sitting in a rack, somewhere I expect it will be very comfortable in for the next [insert ludicrously long time here] until I get to build the crane. Sadly the engine lifter is doing all it needs to do, so the motivation to change isn't high. I will however as my shop is weeny, and trying to juggle machines around there with an engine crane is "tricky" to say the least.

    Not powerful enough for what I need!

    Seems to be aimed at common brick veneer and americain style homes, doesnt really cater for a 60's modern
    I hear what you're saying and I came to the same conclusion with the early version I tried. I'm about half way through their video promo and watch a little each time I stop for a break, but don't know if I will finish it. I'm currently looking at AutoCAD. I played around with 2002 but was never very proficient with it as I simply didn't use it often enough. Since I'm away so much these days I figured I may try to use some of that time to work out designs so I can simply come home and build instead of 90% head scratching/5% butt scratching as is the present protocol! AC Architect is very good, but expensive.

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