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    HI variant22,
    Thanks for the reply. Yes the stuff by Hornetb was a little scary. My Machine is well and truly out of Warranty so it won't be going anywhere. Yes, I'm sure we could all pick various faults with the Machines. I just Googled the Deckel FP2 and very nice looking machine, I hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of yours. I actually had a look around on the Internet a couple of months ago to see what Turret Mills were available like the Hafco HM50 and HM52. I found the Machtech VH1000 that Applied Machinery sell http://www.appliedmachinery.com.au/m...achtech-vh1000 . It's a Machine that I am seriously interested in, but I can't afford it at the moment. I haven't really seen anything in the way of Reviews on the VH1000. I haven't asked on here yet as to whether anyone has one or not. I hope to do some more investigating on Friday night or on the weekend on my DM45 to see just what the problem is.
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    Hi Stewart,
    That just looks like another HM52. I would avoid it like the plague!
    Better to spend the 5k on a mill like Anthony's FP2 or similar.

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    HI Ueee,
    I think they are the same as the HM-52 with the difference being the HM-52 is NT30 and the Machtech is NT40. I am a bit concerned about what I have heard about the HM-52 and for that reason I would definately like to see the Machine I buy in Person. In saying that though, I will certainly being keeping my options open and look at some good secondhand machines. I would really like a Bridgeport style Turret Mill with preferably only about a 1000mm table and NT30 or NT40 taper. I think I'll steer clear of the Bridgeport brand though as they are starting to get a bit old. I'm hoping to get some Shed time this arvo to check my DM45 out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by variant22 View Post
    The stuff by Hornetb is a little scary. I would not really want to do the dowel pin test as I fear I already know the result.
    I'll lend you the big micrometers if you really want to quantify the 'accuracy' of the ways.... PDW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    Hi Stewart,
    That just looks like another HM52. I would avoid it like the plague!
    Better to spend the 5k on a mill like Anthony's FP2 or similar.
    One thing I never realised was that an FP2 has a footprint (base wise) barely larger than the RF45 base. Just some food for thought for those out there with space limitations. If one wants an even smaller footprint the FP1 looks like the next best - a great photo here of the FP1 production line: http://www.lathes.co.uk/deckel/page2.html

    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    I'll lend you the big micrometers if you really want to quantify the 'accuracy' of the ways.... PDW
    I might have to take you up on that when I start the CNC fit up. Could be another job for the planer, but not sure it would be worth the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by variant22 View Post
    Good point. I was aware that it could cut a small amount concave. I guess it just depends on how far out of tram it is, cutter size, and block size and how square the block needs to be. We are talking about a 45 (I have one) here so it is all relative. I should also make the point that if you put an indicator in the spindle and then touch the head, you can see more than insignificant nod.
    For a number of reasons I was unable to check my mill until today.

    What I did was wind the Y axis right out, then backed off slightly. I mounted a 25mm Mity dial indicator in a mag holder, onto the spindle. The indicator was vertical. I touched the indicator onto the table about 15mm from the outer edge and wound the spindle down to a zero reading. About 3/4 of a turn.

    I was somewhat surprised at the result. I pushed against the head near the top. Not just a touch. I put quite a lot of force on it.

    The deflection was 0.05mm to 0.06mm. Is this the wrong way to check? What would be considered "more than insignificant nod"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    I'll lend you the big micrometers if you really want to quantify the 'accuracy' of the ways.... PDW
    HI,
    Thanks for the offer PDW. I ended up having Micrometers big enough mine go up to 150mm for some reason I thought the column dovetails were wider.

    I pulled the head of the Column on the weekend and have been starting to try and workout where the problem is. I put just the Column dovetail slide back on the column tonight and it's actually very firm to move by hand. If you move the Gib a bit with the screws it will actually lock the Column dovetail slide in place. My Granite Surface plate is just big enough for me to check the flatness of the Column Dovetail slide so I will start looking there tomorrow. I'm not that impressed with the Gib though it's a bit rough on the surface where it slides against the Column dovetail. I have even considered just flipping the Column dovetail slide 180 degrees and seeing what the result is - might be worth a go.
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