Thread: buying bearings online ?

Hi Lather,

Just for fun, I've asked for a quote on 100x 6010-2RS, I'll let you know when I get a reply.

Regards
Ray

dam, tried to find the 6808 and 6804 bearings, doesn't come up in the search, if i could get these cheap it would save a lot of hassle.

Originally Posted by Machtool

Who’s quoting you those sort of prices on a 6011 2RS? Let me guess, CBC. That’s a rude price. Especially on 2 dozen. I just rang my supplier, my buy price is $24 + GST for Japanese NSK.

I’d second Ray’s suggestion of Shipito. I’ve been using it also.

Phil.

CBC are expensive for bearings? I didn't know that, thanks for that as it's who I normally buy from if I buy locally. I'll shop around more next time. I've always considered them expensive, but thought it was just the normal Aussie retail reaming.

Pete

CBC bearings is my go-to shop for determining the absolute maximum price even the rudest, most arrogant seller dares ask for an item. Thus armed with what I can confidently call the world's highest price I can then go shopping online. On my drill press rebuild they were 55% higher than my eventual supplier, and they were peddling no-name China (I bought SKF).

Greg

I just checked their webpage to see their mission statement:

"CBC is committed to providing our customers with the highest quality products and services.
Mission Statement is:

"To be a better distributor of bearings and power transmission than any other company in the world by providing superior products and innovative service"


Fail.

The price differences are huge,
the quotes for certain cheap Chinese bearings from different local suppliers
were
from CBC
6004 $6 +gst
6008 $12 +gst
6204 $7+gst
6010 $16 +gst
other store
6004 $3:50 +gst
6008 $8+gst
6204 $3:50+gst
6010 $8+gst

even stranger was that 6010 was $2 more from the same company but different branch.

found the same unusual problem when buying steel from a certain supplier, the price difference from one sales man to another on average can be 50% higher, at times it was almost double, had a written quote once and queried
why such a huge price increase from the previous days quote, the reason was that it depended on if i was a regular customer.
Now i always make sure i go to the salesman who gives the better deal.
At times this is not possible, so need to waste time around the place until he is at the counter.

Originally Posted by lather

The price differences are huge,
the quotes for certain cheap Chinese bearings from different local suppliers
were
from CBC
6004 $6 +gst
6008 $12 +gst
6204 $7+gst
6010 $16 +gst
other store
6004 $3:50 +gst
6008 $8+gst
6204 $3:50+gst
6010 $8+gst

even stranger was that 6010 was $2 more from the same company but different branch.

found the same unusual problem when buying steel from a certain supplier, the price difference from one sales man to another on average can be 50% higher, at times it was almost double, had a written quote once and queried
why such a huge price increase from the previous days quote, the reason was that it depended on if i was a regular customer.
Now i always make sure i go to the salesman who gives the better deal.
At times this is not possible, so need to waste time around the place until he is at the counter.

Some years ago I went into my local tool purveyor to buy a thousand dollar vacuum cleaner. When I asked the salesman about a better price he flipped out, informing me that he wanted to charge me retail plus 10% because I wasn't trade. I told told the manager that I had a wad of hundreds that he'd never see owing to twatish behaviour. I've never, ever been back. But I have spent several thousand elsewhere on similar stock.

It honestly beats me how companies expect their customer base to remain loyal even after the daily beatings.

Have found the same problem at Hare and Forbes in Sydney, pick the right salesman and he will always knock a little bit off the price, even though they are fairly pricey to start with.

Originally Posted by RayG

Try FAG deep groove ball bearing 6010-2RS - Detailed info for FAG deep groove ball bearing 6010-2RS,deep groove ball bearing ,FAG deep groove ball bearing 6010-2RS,6010-2RSR-C3 on Alibaba.com

I picked that one (FAG 6010-2RS) to re-inforce Joe's point about German bearings, I think Germany is a suburb of Shanghai ...

Regards
Ray

Not to say it's the case here, the Chinese form on packaging counterfeit Bosch stuff (in particular), virtually indistinguishable until function comes into play, would have me treading warily.

Do wonder how a lot of the legitimate Chinese stuff is sold here as well, seems to be a contravention of packaging laws - unless that's changed in the last few years.

Originally Posted by Pete F

CBC are expensive for bearings? I didn't know that, thanks for that as it's who I normally buy from if I buy locally. I'll shop around more next time. I've always considered them expensive, but thought it was just the normal Aussie retail reaming.

Pete

Advance out at Blacktown are probably a better proposition for a shop front. Even with an account and discount, CBC aren't the cheapest...proximity the biggest factor for us.

Originally Posted by Greg Q

On my drill press rebuild they were 55% higher than my eventual supplier, and they were peddling no-name China (I bought SKF).

SKF are producing far and wide now too, I've heard some mutterings about the Sth American bearings not being as good as days of yore, you do notice they've cheapened the cages on some, but can't imagine that would have much effect on lifespan.

When I was over at SKF talking to a guy that has worked with them for over 20 years, he told me they are setting up in China, but under their control for materials etc. He said they where not closing down any other plants at this stage, but needed to do it to keep up with everyone else on prices.


My views are I don't think it will be long before they do close some others down, because lets face it, why would you keep producing bearings that cost more in a curtain country, when you can make the same thing cheaper in China. Unless they stagger what bearings will be made where, like the cheaper general explorer series might get made in China, but thats purely speculation on my part.

I see there has been reference to German made bearings, the bearings I picked up last year had made in Germany on some, I forget what the others had on them but can check because I still have some.

Dave

Originally Posted by jhovel

Not unlike the Japanese town of USA of old which was able to manufacture goods "made in USA"....
Cheeky... but all legal.

Joe

Joe, quite OT but just to burst an myth that the yanks love to get worked up about, yes there is a region in Japan that coincidentally happens to be called "Usa", it's been there since Mosses was whittling sticks. About the only thing manufactured there are urban myths. More here
Usa,

Pete

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Lather,

Just for fun, I've asked for a quote on 100x 6010-2RS, I'll let you know when I get a reply.

Regards
Ray

Ok, got a price from "Wendy".... $1.99 ea 6010-2RSR FAG Made in Germany... ahem... yeah right!

I didn't ask for a 1000x price, but the range is $1.50...$2.50, so a 1000x price might be closer to $1.50

Regards
Ray

I have bought from over the phone from Brisbane Bearings, located in ...guess where...

It was a special bearing I needed for a hay rake (special in odd size)... genuine list was over $60... Brisbane bearing was under $10...

http://www.brisbanebearings.com/

Originally Posted by RayG

Ok, got a price from "Wendy".... $1.99 ea 6010-2RSR FAG Made in Germany... ahem... yeah right!

I didn't ask for a 1000x price, but the range is $1.50...$2.50, so a 1000x price might be closer to $1.50

Regards
Ray

That sure looks like a genuine German made bearing and packaging. Who knows? I don't personally care where an item is made as long as it is specified and overseen by competent engineers as opposed to bottom-of-the-barrel buyers.

Last year I bought some precision bearings. I searched the world for the best quality and price. Biggest difference was:
Brisbane Bearings:
FAG 30212P5 $450 ea

Accurate Bearings:
FAG 30212P5 US $138 ea + $60 shipping

The Local CBC bearing place took 2 weeks to tell me they could not get them in.

It pays to do the homework!

Cheers,

Simon