Thread: Good buys

Those pictured below were tools I bought at the new Masters.
$7 & $8 respectively.
Both tools have Yank parentage but born in Asia but showed value for money in their design,finish and use of materials.
The 150mm square has a stainless blade,brass screws and has a decent heft to it.

The dividers are made from a brass /gunmetal material but don't look and feel like they are going to break next week.

hi grahame. masters seems to have a great range of hand tools.
they have stahlwille spanners cheaper than ive seen online
plus all sorts of german made pliers and Sicssors

Yes indeed a great buy. How can they make any money at those prices .

I don't want to be picky but I thought it is best practice to use oil on headstock bearings ? Those cups don't look like oil cups to me . I did try grease in headstock bearings once , but the result was: the spindle slowed down compared to oil lubrication eg it didnt turn as freely as it should

Mike

Hi Mike,
Depends on the bearings, as i have not watched all of Robs vids yet i can't comment on the 102, but on the 715 the bearings are greased (later ones than mine for life) and it originally would have spun to 3500rpm.

We have a masters here, but a fair way from here, if they have stahlwille spanners at a good price i might have to investigate though.

Cheers,
Ew

hi ew they have open enders a set up to 22mm for $90. sometime on special for $70. it might be 99 and 79 but i think its
the first, combo spanner i think up to 36mm for $ 350.
i brought a single 32mm spanner for about $50
aaron

The spindle bearings on that lathe run in oil,dont get the two different pots confused.
The grease pots are on the countershaft bearings.

Originally Posted by pipeclay

The spindle bearings on that lathe run in oil,dont get the two different pots confused.
The grease pots are on the countershaft bearings.

Yes, Pipeclay is right. The greasers are for the countershaft. The steel capped spindle oilers on the lathe headstock are home made.

We only have a Masters store in Mt Gambier in SA.

Rob.

Originally Posted by pipeclay

The spindle bearings on that lathe run in oil,dont get the two different pots confused.
The grease pots are on the countershaft bearings.

Yes you are correct ! Still , the C/shaft would be spinning at a reasonable rpm , depending on which position the belt is in .

Ewan, thanks for that info . But would grease be effective in plain bearings .. e.g., Oil would be more effective in transferring some of the bearing heat away - into the headstock casting . Thus the bearings would run cooler

Mike

Hi Mike,

I've seen both oil and grease used on plain bearings.

Oil would make a mess. Jabsco and other brass gear pumps usually run grease caps.

I'm just using high melting point waterproof wheel bearing grease in the caps.

Considering the ridiculous prices generally asked for these little greasers (new and secondhand), I thought this was a good buy.

Rob

Originally Posted by nearnexus

Yes, Pipeclay is right. The greasers are for the countershaft. The steel capped spindle oilers on the lathe headstock are home made.

We only have a Masters store in Mt Gambier in SA.

Rob.

Don't I know it. Costs us money every time we go there. Got quite a bit last time. A 3800w generator for $399. Half a doz spring clamps about 6in for $2 each.

They had lots of display units along the front of the store, mostly displaying Kobalt branded tools. Made for Masters. I got a ratchet screwdriver with cassette inside, 6 short bits and 6 longer bits $9 I think. Locking collar as well. Feels quite solid. Used it tonight. Worked well. Also got a 3/8 drive socket wrench. The handle has a nice grip and is extendable. Not only that it is geared so that if using in a tight space you rotate the handle and it drives the socket round. $20 with a set of sockets, screwdriver adaptor and bits. They also had a mag tray with LED light on an arm like a handle that pivots to adjust lighting direction.

I also got two 750mm Irwin trigger clamps for $42 each.

The gen set was mostly for crutching sheep so we then had to buy a 240v shearing handpiece for $600. We have shearless sheep (Dorpers) but occasionally they need a clean up around the bum.

SWMBO also got one of the screwdrivers and a total of 9, 909 Li Ion cordless tools for $180 total in two packs. She wanted some toys too.

Dean

I got these from Hong Kong the other day. They have a standard iso metric thread, no tap to leak coolant from and a small nozzle, seemed like a good price for six. The ball/sockets are a good tight fit and they don't leak like the Hafco and Paramount ones I have. I put two on my lathe: one extended by a few inches and the other standard length. I also put a shortened one on my bandsaw. I use small retic taps from Bunnings for taps - they don't leak.
6X Flexible Water OIL Coolant Pipe Hose Lathe Milling | eBay

Originally Posted by th62

I got these from Hong Kong the other day. They have a standard iso metric thread, no tap to leak coolant from and a small nozzle, seemed like a good price for six. The ball/sockets are a good tight fit and they don't leak like the Hafco and Paramount ones I have. I put two on my lathe: one extended by a few inches and the other standard length. I also put a shortened one on my bandsaw. I use small retic taps from Bunnings for taps - they don't leak.
6X Flexible Water OIL Coolant Pipe Hose Lathe Milling | eBay

How do you separate the ball/sockets? I have often wanted to extend the one on my lathe but never wanted to mess with them in case they broke.
TIA
Matt

Hafco sell a kit including a special tool to separate and pinch them back together - $77. If you don't want to pay that, and I certainly don't, just bend them around and squeeze together with one hand to separate (they won't break). To snap Hafco and Paramount brand sockets back together just requires a good grip and a big push (probably why they flop all over the place when extended), it's best to orientate the ball at a slight angle. The cheapies I have can be difficult to push together again, so when I don't feel like expending that amount of time and energy I just apply heat to the socket for a few seconds and push them back together again. The cheapies don't flop around like the others but can be difficult to make minute adjustments with (grease might help).

Originally Posted by matthew_g

How do you separate the ball/sockets? I have often wanted to extend the one on my lathe but never wanted to mess with them in case they broke.
TIA
Matt

Hi Matt,
You can buy the pliers on ebay, LOC Line 1 4" Hose Assembly Pliers 78001 NEW | eBay you could probably get cheapies for far less than the genuine ones, but i find with the 1/4" stuff you cannot get it together without them.

Ew