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    I've done it. Worth it for piece of mind IMO. It's a bit of a chore but wasn't that big a deal. I was most concerned with the chance of grit/sand in the gear box and bearings. There was loose sand in there, whether it would have migrated it debatable, but I was glad to have it out of there. They use a yellow paint to try and lock the sand down and in place . I also replaced the bearings with better units while I was doing it.

    But I've still never used the mill I have MT2 tooling for my other mill that has issues and the X3 is MT3. Haven't bothered to ever tool up for it but I will one day.

    I did have to do some work on the electricals as the brushes on the motor were not good and it would arc terribly and blow the fuse. I cleaned the brushes up and made sure they move freely and I also disassembled the motor and turned and trued the communicator between centres on my lathe. The motor ran better afterwards.


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    On the kitchen table too - extra points for bravery!

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    Its cold down there!

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    Yes, they do not clean the casting sand off very well, then just spray over it with that yellow paint. But to be fair and honest, SIEG do clean off their sand and grit much better than most other low cost Chinese machine tool makers do, where the said sand is mixed into the bearing grease... I think it is overall getting better, Chinese factories are getting cleaner floors, and Chinese workers are getting used to working cleaner. It is evolution in progress. Its like when I was a kid, Japanese products were coarse and low quality. Then in the 70's their cameras and bikes started getting better. In the 80's their quality had become the benchmark, in the 90's they sent western makers to the wall, and now they are pricing themselves out of the markets. The same is happening in China right now, albeit a bit slower.

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    Yeah agreed.

    I don't know if the sand would have been an issue, it isn't an oil bath in the head just the greased gears living up there in space. I did what I could to wash it out and I'm happy with the outcome and that I don't think it will be any issue or any more would come free. FWIW the X3 seems like a reasonable machine. You've actually given me the kick up the bum to make a metric threaded draw bar (I forgot I do actually have an MT3 ER32 collet holder that I use on the hercus lathe but my draw bar isn't long enough for the X3) so that I can try it out and do some work on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornetb View Post
    Yeah agreed.

    I don't know if the sand would have been an issue, it isn't an oil bath in the head just the greased gears living up there in space. I did what I could to wash it out and I'm happy with the outcome and that I don't think it will be any issue or any more would come free. FWIW the X3 seems like a reasonable machine. You've actually given me the kick up the bum to make a metric threaded draw bar (I forgot I do actually have an MT3 ER32 collet holder that I use on the hercus lathe but my draw bar isn't long enough for the X3) so that I can try it out and do some work on it.
    My X3 actually came with an M12 draw bar that should suit any MT3-M12 tools and collets (I thought its a standard accessory with SIEG?). I just use allthread as draw bar for some few MT3 tooling that I have which still have imperial threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cba_melbourne View Post
    My X3 actually came with an M12 draw bar that should suit any MT3-M12 tools and collets (I thought its a standard accessory with SIEG?). I just use allthread as draw bar for some few MT3 tooling that I have which still have imperial threads.
    Yeah it did come with one (Metric) but my ER32 MT3 chuck is imperial , I made a draw bar previously to suit the hercus lathe headstock, which is too short for the X3. It's not a big deal to make another one, will be a fairly quick job, it's just been well down the project list especially given how cold it is out in the shed at the moment

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