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14th July 2011, 06:01 PM #1
Coolant Filtration
Hi All,
This is branched off from the Surface Grinder thread, since it's a coolant filtration system it probably is applicable to other setups.
I got some household water filters from ebay, these ones are clear (for home brewing), and some rare earth magnets.
Here are all the parts.. the main parts are just pvc tubing, and bits of plastic that happened to be handy.
Screwing those rare earth magnets into place took a bit of patience, they are vicious little things.
These pictures were taken before the exit holes at the top of the inner pvc tube were drilled.
The idea is to make the system easy to clean, so the magnets are inside the PVC tube, and you just wipe the filter element with a cloth.
This shows the assembly.
The filters are mounted on the wall, and high enough up so that they will drain properly when the pump stops.
The second filter is intended for a normal particulate style filter, the one I'm trying at the moment is a 50micron pleated paper style.
The coolant tank was thoroughly washed and the system flushed, and BEFORE doing any grinding, the system was run for 10-20 minutes, and there was still fine particles of grinding dust..
The filters are mounted up side down, so that when the pump stops the system drains and you can clean the filters without coolant going everywhere. The coolant enters from the bottom and exits through the top and down the middle of the filter.
The old system consisted of speaker magnets in a plastic bag, cheap, and it picked up a lot of grinding dust, but it just wasn't getting the smaller particles, and so far this setup seems to be doing the job nicely.
Regards
Ray
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14th July 2011, 06:41 PM #2Pink 10EE owner
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Looks good, earthmoving equipment sometimes have magnetic filters in their transmission lines... They use donut shaped with the like poles facing one another so you have
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14th July 2011, 08:14 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Ray,
Looks great, will be interesting to see how long between filter changes and if the plastic will react to the coolant.
Does the coolant tank have a weir in it?
Stuart
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14th July 2011, 10:28 PM #4
Hi .RC,
When trying to figure out which way the magnets would work best I came across this configuration, the Hallbach array, which is designed for maximum field on the inside of the tube, what would work better for this application would be maximum field on the outside of the tube.
There is a commercial magnetic coolant filter, made by Eclipse, if I remember correctly, that says in their promotional blurb, that the arrangement of the magnets is some special customized configuration.. but they don't say what it is
I just mounted them with all the north poles facing out, because that's the way they came. There's probably a good research project in this for someone to figure out the best arrangement.
Hi Stuart,
The return line from the grinder goes into a weir and that's where 90% of the grinding dust and abrasive ends up, I'm accumulating buckets full of finely ground steel, maybe I should start looking into doing some powdered metal project..
Most of the stuff that escapes the weir is the really fine powdery stuff, and that's what is getting picked up by the magnets, the paper filter, I expected to be picking up fine abrasive, but zilch so far.. which is a good thing I guess..
Regards
Ray
PS.. I found the eclipse one, I was thinking of, http://www.newmantools.com/eclipse/micromag.htm
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15th July 2011, 12:10 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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I was reading about powdered metal the other day, they made it sound so easy...... they didn't mention the pressures or temps involved.
Ok here is an idea for you, the coolant on my hacksaw runs back to the tank over a plastic tray. I've put a couple of large fridge magnets on that to catch swarf. Maybe something like that on the weir would help? I haven't used this idea long enough to be sure its much use on a hacksaw but it might help on a grinder. Although I guess you've got it pretty well covered now.
Stuart
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15th July 2011, 10:00 AM #6
Hi Stuart,
That's where I put the speaker magnets just before the pump inlet. The change to clear coolant, is interesting, you can see a lot more of what's going on, not just in grinding but in the coolant tank as well...
Incidentally, I got a book on powder metallurgy the other day, but I haven't got around to doing much studying as yet.
Regards
Ray
PS. Chuck the fridge magnets and get some rare earth magnets.
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15th July 2011, 11:29 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Ray,
I find the rare earth magnets painful to clean, though I guess we are using them of different things, I'm just keeping some heavy swarf out the tank.
The clear coolant does sound interesting. have you thought about using it on the lathe or mill? Is there an easy way of testing the concentration?
Stuart
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