Thread: Cross slide scraping

Originally Posted by simonl

I wasn't expecting success with that offer! The first time I saw a pic of a Monarch was when a member posted a pic of theirs (it may have been you, not sure but it was dark red) and I thought what a lovely lathe. It then prompted me to do a search and I died when I saw what they sell for! I can only assume you do get what you pay for!

Not mine, mine is green and a CY 16x54 model not a 10EE. It weighs 2.6 tonnes and is a really nice machine to use.

Cost me more in freight than I paid for the lathe.

However it does need some scraping so I'm all for Stuart leading the way. Learn from others (mistakes) is my favourite method.

PDW

Joe.

Around the 4:55 mark of the above linked video, Nick mentions Diamant Brand Tuschierpaste. I know its blue / blau. Can I please have a translation of “Tuschierpaste”

We aught to invite Nick to joins us. He must need an outlet since he doesn’t do HSM anymore.

The other bloke we need is Philbur from Norway. I think he’s a member here, just not that active. You can never have enough Phil’s

Regards The other Phil.

P.S
The dark red Monarch is Macona’s from the P.M & HSM forums.

Originally Posted by Machtool

Can I please have a translation of “Tuschierpaste”
.

Hi Phil,
According to Google translate it is Dressing paste.

Ewan

Originally Posted by .RC.

Whatever you do my only advice is.....

PLAN PLAN PLAN...

Thats the PLAN

Damn Melbourne cameras battery went flat.

I've been doing some more measuring and I'm happy the carriage ways are at least much flatter than the cross slide, even if it does have anice mill finish. I think I'm up for a new gib anyway as they one in there is bent(not so bad I guess?) but by the time I get full bearing it will likely be to small.

Not sure how the dovetail ways have been scraped.

The way I'm seeing it scraping the bottom flat will make the dovetail wider in the middle, but assuming the dovetail on the carriage is ok I can spot off that for the minute. Either way the bottom has to be flat so I think I'll make a start tomorrow.



Stuart

Hi Stuart,
Is that last pic of the dovetail machining?
Looks just like the top notch finish on my HM50, who need to scrape or even grind when you can mill, eh?
Is it just the photo, or is the screw just a standard thread, or is it ACME?

Ewan

Hi Ewan,
It is indeed. Maybe it is just a bad finish off the mill? I thought it had been hand scraped as the "rigdes are across the way?

I think its just the photo, I've never measured it but it certainly "looks" acme.

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Hi Ewan,
It is indeed. Maybe it is just a bad finish off the mill? I thought it had been hand scraped as the "rigdes are across the way?

I think its just the photo, I've never measured it but it certainly "looks" acme.

Stuart

Thanks Stuart,
Like everyone else i can't wait to see the process and results.
Thanks for being the guinea pig!

Ewan

Thanks from guinea pig one. lol
I'll see how I go with Stuax and see how it goes. May was well find out now if its going to blow up.

Stuart

Phil,
Tuschierpaste is marking paste as in transfer of markings paste (the word tuschieren comes from the same Saxon root as touch). What we call marking blue.....
Joe

Originally Posted by Ueee

Hi Phil,
According to Google translate it is Dressing paste.

Ewan

Yeah I did that also. Google is fair, but in some cases its better to go closer to the source.

Phil.

Originally Posted by Machtool

Yeah I did that also. Google is fair, but in some cases its better to go closer to the source.

Phil.

Yes,
Having a German mother in law i know all about things not really translating. My wife uses some German words everyday, just because the is no meaningful literal translation.

Ewan

Originally Posted by jhovel

Phil,
Tuschierpaste is marking paste as in transfer of markings paste (the word tuschieren comes from the same Saxon root as touch).

So basically it means "touch paste". How beautiful is that? I wish I'd picked up more German, some of the technical words are just sensational in there simplicity

Phil.

Just been thinking a little more.
Should I add some oil grooves and drill two more holes your oilers? As the flat ways dont get oiled very well as is it. Sure I can wind the cross slide over and get one end but the middle and other end are left to get the oil that runs down from the dovetail/gib oiler, then it has to fill the under cut in the corner of the dovetail before getting back to the flat way.
Now should I do them first or last? What sort of groove? a nice long diagonal one or cnc my name in them? lol Any sort of rule about width and depth?

Stuart

Originally Posted by Ueee

Hi Stuart,
Is that last pic of the dovetail machining?
Looks just like the top notch finish on my HM50, who need to scrape or even grind when you can mill, eh?
Is it just the photo, or is the screw just a standard thread, or is it ACME?

Ewan

The first mill I had was milled in the Y axis, and that was one of my complaints as well because they advertised it as precision ground ways. The new mill I got had ground ways on all axis's. I am not sure about the 50's but that's what the 52's where.

Dave