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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    Hi Mike,

    Bearing in mind I cant see how worn your leadscrew is and I've never done this.
    Assuming most of the wear is in the nut and only a little in the screw. As you are making your own nut to suit, you dont care if your thread form it a little off.
    Would it be a completely stupid idea to try recutting the screw you have(possibly grinding the thread if you have a TPG)?
    You dont have much to loose.

    Stuart
    Hi again

    Well , the original leadscrew is pretty buggered , the treads are worn thin in the middle . Maybe the worn section could be built up with brazing bronze , and recut - that would be an option but a rather messy one

    This my bodged attempt at making the 7/8" ACME screw .

    I made a few errors

    1. I took deep cuts rather than small multiple cuts

    2. The low powered lathe wasnt in its lowest gear , in other words I was impatient and tried 2nd low instead of 4th low .

    Mike
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    That is a whole lot better than my only attempt at acme. I decided that there was too much play in the cross slide screw (which was what I was trying to make) for it to be possible. The tool grabbed and pulled in by the amount of play. About 2mm. End of tool. I watched a YouTube video a couple of days ago by Donald R. Cossett. He was cutting an acme thread and had a carbide insert similar to V form thread inserts, but with the acme form.

    Dean

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    Default this is how its done

    OK I will have to use the HENDEY as this guy is

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK33q1JdDnU

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    Default WRONG STEEL

    Hi

    Discovered something relevant to cutting ACME threads . Ive been using what I thought was a free cutting steel, well it isnt . My bodge was the result of using crap steel .

    Because the ACME form tool has no top/side rake , you are asking the tool to do a lot .

    Im now looking for some leaded steel

    Mike

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    Default 1214 steel

    I managed to pick up a 12' length of 7/8" 1214 free machining stock- from this place . I will be making the leadscrew from this stock


    http://www.ian-stansfield-smith.com.au/

    They have a good amount of 1214 and 12L14 , in many imperial and metric sizes in round and hex .

    They sell it by weight in 12 ft standard lengths .

    Mike

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    Default lead screw

    Ive made the newACME lead screw , the 1214 steel made a huge difference , it machines nicely .I am making two lead screws, one is for Andre , as he has the same machine- itseasy to make two of them as the lathe is set up for the job .

    Next step is the nut


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    Default OLD AND NEW

    The old and new lead screw & nut . The nut is made from delrin , I have to machine up a sleeve for the delrin nut - it is rather long and robust for a leadscrew nut . Mike
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    Thanks Mike much appreciated

    I am going to give my mill a lick of paint and try to remove the stuck auto lock Chuck over the weekend.
    BETTER TO HAVE TOOLS YOU DON'T NEED THAN TO NEED TOOLS YOU DON'T HAVE

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    Default motor

    Hi

    I removed the motor frame assembly today , had to use a engine crane .

    Its a 3/4 hp 6 pole motor running 940 rpm . I checked the field windings insulation with a megger and it checks out OK .

    Not sure if it is delta or star connected yet ? I'm getting half an ohm between each of the 3 wires

    Mike
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    Mike were all six wires of the motor connected to the switchgear ?
    BETTER TO HAVE TOOLS YOU DON'T NEED THAN TO NEED TOOLS YOU DON'T HAVE

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    Quote Originally Posted by welder View Post
    Mike were all six wires of the motor connected to the switchgear ?
    Andre

    I can only see 3 wires , not 6 . Mike

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    Okay I have six wires on my motor.
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    I stand corrected my motor also has 3 wires. Do you think you can extract the star point ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by welder View Post
    I stand corrected my motor also has 3 wires. Do you think you can extract the star point ?
    hi Andre

    One thing that worries me is the age of these motors , the old cotton insulation they used in those days has become very fragile after 60 years . If we tried to mess about and find the star point , the whole thing could become a mess and be turned into a boat anchor .

    One option is to look into using a newer motor with an adapter plate . I am investigating this idea .

    Mike

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    Mike and Andre - how about going to plan 'B' and taking the motor down to the local rewind shop? They can rewind the motor with modern insulated wire, pull out the star point (and convert to delta) and you have a VFD suitable motor in the original housing. I've been told that old insulation and VFDs don't always play nicely together because the old insulation can sometimes not withstand the square wave pulses - especially if it has been moved around and cracked in places.
    Best of both worlds?

    Michael

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