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Thread: D1-6 ER40 collet chuck
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6th October 2013, 11:42 PM #1
D1-6 ER40 collet chuck
Hi all,
I spent some time this arvo making up a mandrel and then some gear blanks for 2 missing gears for the Antracs gear train. It was soon evident that i really need a collet chuck for it.
I have a spare D1-6 backplate from the hydraulic chuck, and i was thinking about making a collet chuck simply by cutting a circle of plate, ideally 15mm+ thick and welding a piece of 60 or 70mm bar in the middle of it to bore and thread for the collets and nut. A register on the back and it can be bolted to the backplate like any chuck.
Has anyone got any better ideas or problems with the idea?
Cheers,
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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7th October 2013, 12:22 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Ew,
Little Machine Shop sells a similar unit for the mini lathe, so it should work fine. To make it extra strong, I would machine a shoulder about 12mm back on the bar and machine the plate to suit, then weld both sides. The 3mm gap would give extra support on the weld area, as it wouldn't be machined off.
Kryn
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7th October 2013, 03:48 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Why not just turn the nut from a piece of material large enough to allow for mounting to your backing plate, saves having to weld anything.
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7th October 2013, 06:47 AM #4Philomath in training
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Should work - I do something similar myself. I can even donate a spare unused ER40 nut to the cause if you are short one. (At the time I needed to get one, Ebay only had pairs listed)
Michael
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7th October 2013, 09:48 AM #5Pink 10EE owner
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That is how I made mine Ueee...
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7th October 2013, 10:00 PM #6
Thanks guys, I just have to make sure my weld are good ones....
Michael, i have plenty of nuts, If i needed more i was going to try the bearing ones.
Of course i could try and find a bit of stock 200dia by 60mm thick but it would be a bit of a waste......not to mention expensive.
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7th October 2013, 10:30 PM #7Distracted Member
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Ewan I would be worried about welding anything of this nature because of the stresses.
A collet chuck doesn't have to move much to be ruined.
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7th October 2013, 10:35 PM #81915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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8th October 2013, 07:46 AM #101915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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8th October 2013, 08:14 AM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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You should be fine. I've made bearing housings, shaft flanges etc from weldments. If you can, heat the thing as evenly as possible after welding them allow it to cool slowly. Then machine it.
I keep thinking on making one myself but I have a P-B EC collet setup for my Chipmaster so not sure how often I'd ever use a collet chuck on the big Monarch.
PDW
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22nd October 2013, 09:21 PM #12
I started on the chuck today. Cut the body from a bit of plate that already had a hole in it and machined the center part up ready to be welded in. Just need to bore the hole to final size and then crank up the welder.
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5th November 2013, 11:51 PM #13
The chuck is now finished, i heated the whole thing up as much as i could and welded it up. Machined the OD and the backplate register and then bolted it up and bored the taper and threaded the nose. I don't know what sort of steel the bar is, but at a 3mm DOC the chips just would not break up.....
Cheers,
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