Thread: Damn disapointed

Cookie,

Did you ever get any satisfaction from Asset Machinery?

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/da...ointed-155438/

Les

Sounds similar to the treatment I received from Asset Plant and Machinery. I purchased a milling machine that arrived quite a few weeks past their worst case scenario for delivery. Then there was damage and missing items. Then features missing like the "tapping feature". All in all it was a nightmare and I would never deal with them again. And as of today they are still advertising my machine SM-MD45 as having a tapping feature and depth stop, even though they admitted these machines never had these features and assured me they would change their website specs. That was over a year ago. Hopefully people read this thread before purchasing from these guys as if I had of seen this thread I would have purchased elsewhere..

Dept of Fair Trading next stop......

Originally Posted by cookie48

........................ But alas the Tail Stock never locked tight. After several phone calls and several promises that a new Tail Stock had been sent one finally arrived.
Yep that's right this one did not lock either.
I explained to them that it locks at the end of the bed but will not lock in the centre, so it appears that the Bed is not even through its length.

1) the guides at the inner underside of the bed are supposed to be slighly tapered with regard to the top tailstock ways, in such a way as to make the tailstock fits looser at the right end of the bed. This is so, to prevent the tailstock being pulled into the chuck. The amount of taper is often excessive on Chinese 920 type lathes, the taper should only be about 0.2 to 0.4mm over the whole bed length. In your case, the taper seems not only to be excessive, but it is the other way around: making your lathe bed a reject that should never have been assembled into a lathe.

2) On a new lathe, you should never ask for the tailstock to be swapped! Tailstocks must be very carefully matched at the factory during assembly to the headstock center height. The tolerance allowed is very small, for a 920 lathe the tailstock center height is allowed to be 0.00mm low to 0.02mm high with regard to the headstock. With the 920 lathe, this matching is done by selection. It is quite a pain to correct for a tailstock out of tolerance, especially if low

Each single of the above two faults, is reason enough to return your new lathe! That is, unless you purchased it as a used lathe, or as a discounted demo lathe, or as a lathe that has had an accident and was sold in "as is" condition or "for parts", or a lathe that came without a test certificate and is therefore to be regarded as a discounted "factory second". These generic Chinese "920" lathes (usually not well made clones of the Austrian Emco Compact 8 lathe) are assembled by many different factories in mainland China, and quality does vary greatly between them. Not all 920 lathes looking same are made the same. Buyer beware!

How come I cant reply to threads more than 365 days old?

Originally Posted by Stustoys

How come I cant reply to threads more than 365 days old?

Another useful task for the time machine...

Hi Cookie48,

There is a legal phrase that comes into play, I think it's "fit for purpose" and if they sell you a machine that fails that test, they are on a hiding to nothing when it comes time for a court to rule on the matter, but like most things, by the time it gets to that stage everyone has lost, except for the solicitors and barristers...

Good luck, and I'd be interested in hearing what the outcome finally is.

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by Stustoys

How come I cant reply to threads more than 365 days old?

Yeah what's going on there? Has the issue been fixed maybe?

I've fired off a PM to the OP as he seems to be pretty active over in pen turning.
Hopefully 30 other people didnt come up with the same idea

Originally Posted by Ueee

Yeah what's going on there? Has the issue been fixed maybe?

nope I tested it I still get "You are not allowed to bump threads that are older than 365 days!"

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

How come I cant reply to threads more than 365 days old?

Quite simple really

This thread was indeed more than 365 days old, BUT Les in Red Deer asked the question in post #32 in a separate (new) thread, obviously because he couldn't ask it in this thread because of the 365 day limit. One of the mods saw the new thread, decided it really belonged here, moved it here, which in turn made this thread less than 365 days old, so that you and others could now post in this thread again.

Yes. I saw the original posts (2 identical). Next minute there was only one and in another thread. I twigged what had happened because of this but slightly confused at first.

Dean

After several calls to the manager etc I finally got on to Consumer Affairs in Adelaide.
Loh and behold every thing rocks in to place. I get a new lathe and they get the old one. Plus they paid all cartage costs.

Originally Posted by cba_melbourne

1) the guides at the inner underside of the bed are supposed to be slighly tapered with regard to the top tailstock ways, in such a way as to make the tailstock fits looser at the right end of the bed. This is so, to prevent the tailstock being pulled into the chuck.

That's interesting. I thought my Hercus 260 was imperfect in that it has a slight taper on the underside of the bed ways.
I found that out when modified the tailstock so that it would slide without wobble when used with a Coventry die head - I bolted a spacer and plate under the TS base. It wasn't a success, due to not enough clearance at the left end when the right end was good.
But, what normal circumstance would cause the TS to be pulled into the chuck?

Jordan

Originally Posted by nadroj

But, what normal circumstance would cause the TS to be pulled into the chuck?

Jordan

That had me puzzled too.

Even then, I would have thought that the morse would pull out of the tailstock first.

Rob

Originally Posted by nadroj

But, what normal circumstance would cause the TS to be pulled into the chuck?

A drill self feeding is the only thing that springs to mind. If the taper let go then the feed stops as well so not a big issue.
My bed tapers the other way though.

Stuart