Thread: Dean Smith & Grace 1307

Well done and looking forward to following your progress to install her. Price was pretty good as the QCTP and holders would not be far shy of the total cost.

Regards

Mark

Very good... if you are wondering about why it is called a 1307... 13" swing over bed, 07" swing over cross slide...

Hi Piers,

I think you got a real bargain there, DSG's are definately the Rolls Royce of lathes, and you got yourself a good one at a ridiculously low price.

Are you sure it's a 1307, I thought it was 1306 x 40, not that it matters and in any event I'm not even sure what the differences are.

I looked up the specs on the PB super precision chuck, guaranteed 0.03 mm TIR... that combined with the multifix tool posts makes it a real winner.

Looking forward to seeing it come to life.

Ray

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Piers,

I think you got a real bargain there, DSG's are definately the Rolls Royce of lathes,

Nah, Monarchs are..

As an interesting tidbit of information... Monarch probably owned DS&G when that lathe was made...

So many levers lol

Whats going on with a gap, if is a gap. what ever it is the rear ways seem to be missing??

Looking forward to the clean up pictures.

Stuart

Hi Stuart
Just having a closer look at what your normal eagle eyes pick up and it looks like the saddle is thin at the back on that side so the way at the back does not need to go all the way to the headstock.
Nice lathe at a great price.

Hi Piers,
The DSG manual clearly states that you have too many Multifix tool holders and you need to sell me at least half of what you have, rock bottom price of course.

Well done a great pick up, nice piece of gear.

Cheers Bruce

Originally Posted by markgray

Price was pretty good as the QCTP and holders would not be far shy of the total cost.

Regards

Mark

Hi Mark,

I had no idea how pricey the original Multifix are, so out of interest I priced them up on the Internet. Total price for the post and holders purchased individually is $3600 USD

http://www.thomasskinner.com/Custome...9cat_pg199.pdf

Cheers

Piers

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Piers,

Are you sure it's a 1307, I thought it was 1306 x 40, not that it matters and in any event I'm not even sure what the differences are.

I looked up the specs on the PB super precision chuck, guaranteed 0.03 mm TIR... that combined with the multifix tool posts makes it a real winner.


Ray

Hi Ray,

Great to met yourself and Josh at the auction.

Pretty sure it is a 1307?

The 3 jaw TIR 0.03 guaranteed might be why the 4 jaw shows no sign of use and was gathering dust and a fine layer of surface rust!

Once it is set up I will check the TIR.

Cheers

Piers

Originally Posted by .RC.

Nah, Monarchs are..

As an interesting tidbit of information... Monarch probably owned DS&G when that lathe was made...

Hi RC,

I think DSG are the Rolls Royce. Monarch are the Cadillac of lathes.

Either way I have the Rolls Royce as the 1307 was sold in the USA as a Monarch-DSG

scroll down this link to see the Monarch flyer and what my lathe looked like new!

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...ch-dsg-173330/

Cheers

Piers

Originally Posted by Stustoys

So many levers :? lol

Whats going on with a gap, if is a gap. what ever it is the rear ways seem to be missing??

Looking forward to the clean up pictures.

Stuart

Hi Stuart,

I have not had time to investigate the "gap" feature of the lathe. Any DSG owners able to shed some light!

from what I recall (the lathe is not at my house) the missing way at the rear looks like a shoot to direct chips away from the bed. The rear way stops roughly in line with the chuck and the saddle carriage is flush with the tool centre line.

see if the attached photo sheds any more light on the subject.

Cheers

Piers

Originally Posted by argeng

Hi Piers,
The DSG manual clearly states that you have too many Multifix tool holders and you need to sell me at least half of what you have, rock bottom price of course.
Cheers Bruce

Hi Bruce,

Read most of the manual today but could not find the reference you mention

Cheers

Piers

Today I had a flick through the DSG manual and have put together the following summary of its key features:

swing over bed: 13"
Swing over sadle: 7"
Swing in gap: 22"
Distance between centres: 40"
Head stock bore diameter: 2 &1/8"
High speed belt driven head option
18 spindle speeds from 20 to 2240 RPM
Spindle nose: D1-6"
10 hp 3 phase motor
weight: 2520kg
45 metric and Inch thread pitches and feed rates (quick change)
Visual indicator of spindal speed selected
Visual indicator of pitch and feed rates selected
MT3 tail stock
Power drilling attachment

Feed reduction lever on apron. 1:1 and 5:8
6 adjustable carage stop positions
Built in head stock work steady "spider"
GIB Autogard apron safety clutch
Threading stop built into cross slide hand wheel
Multi start thread positioning indicator built into spindle nose.

What have I missed? Any other 1307 owners on the forum who can add something?

Cheers

Piers

Originally Posted by Dave J

Hi Stuart
Just having a closer look at what your normal eagle eyes pick up and it looks like the saddle is thin at the back on that side so the way at the back does not need to go all the way to the headstock.

Hi Dave,

I'm thinking the carriage is square.

Thanks for the picture Piers, looks like its not a gap bed. Guess we'll find out one day

Stuart