Thread: Deckel FP2LB

Deckel only used oil on their plain bearing spindles which changed in 1952. Your vertical spindle should have needle roller bearings which would take Klubër Isoflex NBU15 grease. I have some that I can spare. Phil F also stocks it. It sells for silly money...around $1/ gram

And yes, I do have enough Morlina 10 weight oil to float a boat. It is free this month with every FP1 purchase, even the plastic model FP1.

GQ

Originally Posted by Greg Q

Deckel only used oil on their plain bearing spindles which changed in 1952. Your vertical spindle should have needle roller bearings which would take Klubër Isoflex NBU15 grease. I have some that I can spare. Phil F also stocks it. It sells for silly money...around $1/ gram

And yes, I do have enough Morlina 10 weight oil to float a boat. It is free this month with every FP1 purchase, even the plastic model FP1.

GQ

I have 3 manuals for the FP2LB and only one of them give the specific weights for all the lubricants, I'll put up an image of the charts, as its always nice to have an pre ISO equivalent chart. and yes it calls out for the awesomeness das ist Klubër Isoflex, ohhh jaa.

-Josh


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Picked up the side panels for the column from the sandblaster this morning at $60 to get the lot done its a finish that's hard to beat. The castings looks great, only one small inclusion that I can see.

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Paint tuned up today as well.

Only problem is that they gave us the wrong primer, It should have been the zinc phosphate stuff, no matter they said they would swap it over for us.

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Now I just need to setup a small spray booth, and pick up a better respirator and spray suit then I can start shooting some epoxy.
-Josh

Originally Posted by Brobdingnagian

Picked up the side panels for the column from the sandblaster this morning at $60 to get the lot done its a finish that's hard to beat. The castings looks great, only one small inclusion that I can see.

Nice finish - that's why I have a sand blaster. $60 for that lot is a good price too. I wouldn't have done it for you for $60, I hate sand blasting even in a booth with dust extraction etc. You would have had to spend a couple hours mowing the grass instead as I hate doing that even more.....

PDW

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

That sounds real thin Josh. Mobil suggest its use in high speed spindles, how fast will the Deckel spin?

BT

Bob,
2000 rpm, I did a little extra reading, I'm pretty sure now that the 10cSt oil is for the high speed fine boring head.

Greg,
We already have some Klubër (left over from the T&C grinder rebuild).

I might hold off on the getting any spindle lube for the time being and wait till I pull apart the spindles and check what it is actually running. ie not make a $120 guess.

-Josh

Knocked over one of those little piece of the puzzle today, the coolant pump. Its just a small gear pump and just needed to be pulled down and the swarf and rust pulled out, a re-grease, a little lapping a coat of paint and some new bolts. Pictured here ready to go back on a plumbed in if I can find the hose from the tank.
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It might also need a new seal, but I won't know for sure until I can run it up to speed with a closed discharge.

Hi Josh,
How long are you letting the paint dry before you re-assemble? I find i need a good week, even with the parts near the fire or in the sun, before the paint is hard enough to not damage it, even with a 2 pac. Love the colour.....have the feeling i've seen it before.

Cheers,
Ew

Originally Posted by Ueee

Hi Josh,
How long are you letting the paint dry before you re-assemble? I find i need a good week, even with the parts near the fire or in the sun, before the paint is hard enough to not damage it, even with a 2 pac. Love the colour.....have the feeling i've seen it before.

Cheers,
Ew

Ewan,
We have a little drying oven for small parts and circuit boards. This is not the epoxy paint but some quick dry RAL6011 car touch up paint that Ray got to do the Meca RT. But to answer the question with the oven about 1 hour and another hour to cool and fully harden. the weather has been to horrible to consider painting with the epoxy.

With the epoxy the literature says full cure after 7 days (as long as the temp is above 5C).

-Josh

The zinc epoxy turned up late yesterday, so with the sun shining we were keen to get a coat on.

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The spray booth/drying box is an old pump test tank tipped on to its side. I have a tarp so that I can seal the opening after spraying and get the temperature up to about 20C to hasten the curing. Once the parts were dry enough to handle I brought them inside the workshop so that they did not have to suffer the overnight cold and dew.

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I will leave them a couple of days before a light sand, and then a run over them with some light polyester filler to smooth them out. The next coat is the other non zinc epoxy and will add some colour.

I have also ordered up some replacement push buttons for start/stop as the exiting ones are on their last legs. I went for some sealed illuminated flush stainless steel ones.
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I have done away with the existing electrical enclosure and re-run all the wiring as that was on its last legs as well as I found a nice little hide away inside the column's casting that is a nice size for a small VFD (thinking Danfoss FC51), a circuit breaker and enough room for a half a dozen 2pole relays, and a cooling fan.


-Josh

Push Buttons:


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Originally Posted by Brobdingnagian

The spray booth/drying box is an old pump test tank tipped on to its side. I have a tarp so that I can seal the opening after spraying and get the temperature up to about 20C to hasten the curing.

I will just gloat that the days up here have been around 26C or so..

Originally Posted by .RC.

I will just gloat that the days up here have been around 26C or so..

We now have a like button, but I think we need a dislike button at times......
We hit a sweltering top of 8 today.....

Originally Posted by Ueee

We now have a like button, but I think we need a dislike button at times......
We hit a sweltering top of 8 today.....

Canberra has the worst climate of any sizeable city in Australia. Friends of mine who moved to Hobart were delighted at how warm it was in winter, in comparison.

Not to mention the moderate summer temperatures, compared to Canberra.

PDW

Originally Posted by Brobdingnagian

The zinc epoxy turned up late yesterday, so with the sun shining we were keen to get a coat on.

DSCN3301.jpg

The spray booth/drying box is an old pump test tank tipped on to its side. I have a tarp so that I can seal the opening after spraying and get the temperature up to about 20C to hasten the curing. Once the parts were dry enough to handle I brought them inside the workshop so that they did not have to suffer the overnight cold and dew.

DSCN3302.jpg

I will leave them a couple of days before a light sand, and then a run over them with some light polyester filler to smooth them out. The next coat is the other non zinc epoxy and will add some colour.

I have also ordered up some replacement push buttons for start/stop as the exiting ones are on their last legs. I went for some sealed illuminated flush stainless steel ones.
75 (1).jpg

I have done away with the existing electrical enclosure and re-run all the wiring as that was on its last legs as well as I found a nice little hide away inside the column's casting that is a nice size for a small VFD (thinking Danfoss FC51), a circuit breaker and enough room for a half a dozen 2pole relays, and a cooling fan.


-Josh

Josh,just a query where did you obtain the s/s switches.Got a sick ELU saw here with same type of switches Unobtainium from OEM, but that depicted switch looks like could be a goer. Cheers John. and a mighty fine effort you are doing with the mill. Only 1 problem is its latitude positition is 60 miles north of Newstead.