Need a Die size for a type of thread

[MadKad]

Hi

I need to know what die size for a thread to be made on body jewellery like



I dont no what size tap and die set I should get as I am unsure on what size I will need for the part on fitting the balls on the jewellery.

Can any one help, here is some info on this as could point me to the size of tap and die set I might need.

The bar that the thread will be made on is 1.6mm gauge and the part threaded is a little less I would say around 1.4mm but I dont have a digi gauge reader

I have looked all over the net for this answer please help some one.

[Grahame Collins]

Hi

I need to know what die size for a thread to be made on body jewellery like



I dont no what size tap and die set I should get
Hopefully you won't need a set rather just a taper tap and a die


as I am unsure on what size I will need for the part on fitting the balls on the jewellery.


Can any one help, here is some info on this as could point me to the size of tap and die set I might need.

For fine sizes you only have to be a bit out and it won't fit.I suggest you obtain a vernier caliper and learn how to read it

The bar that the thread will be made on is 1.6mm gauge and the part threaded is a little less I would say around 1.4mm but I dont have a digi gauge reader

Model engineers such as the blokes who make trains often use a fine BA thread.I understand it also is in use in clocks and perhaps watches.Model Engineers Workshop magazine carries an ad for The Tap and Die.Co of 455 West Green Rd.LondonN15 3PL -UK ph +44(0) 20 8888 1865
www.tapdie.com
I would suggest that you contact with them and explain your problem I am sure they could help you.
I have looked all over the net for this answer please help some one.

That should help you

Grahame

[hux]

I'm with Grahame

I was going to say BA thread. There is such as thing as 1.6mm Metric thread it is .35 pitch.
It's rough equivalent is BA10 or 11. Search Ebay for BA threads. There is a company LPS Tool Makers that sells on Ebay and lists BA threading.

Question that needs to be asked is - are you working of specific stock diameters that cannot be unaltered or are you making to specific sizes? If making the jewelry on a lathe you can simplify significantly by being able to turn to suit a specific thread diameter.

[malb]

BA male thread diameters in your size range.

10BA 1.7mm
11BA 1.5mm
12BA 1.3mm
13BA 1.2mm
14BA 1.0mm

Sizes smaller than 10BA would be fairly rare outside of watchmaking and all odd numbered sizes (11BA, 13BA) are extremely rare as normal practice is to use even number sizes only.

Suttons have 10BA button dies and taps in their consumer (Carbon) range $38 for die, $12 for taps (2005 wholesale prices by the look of it). As such you should be able obtain on special order from any industrial supplies retailer. Remember that you will also need a die holder and a small tap holder.

[MadKad]

Thank you every one I kind of think I understand, I am still looking into the exact size as it does need to be the very same.

I got one of these about a week ago



the biggest size on there will let me screw a bar in that has the thread on, I take it that is the size, these are a jewellers Tap & Die set, but I really cant see it making the thread as it doesnt seem to look like it has any way of cutting the thread in

Again thank you for the help these tap and dies confuse me like mad, I will try and work it out from the info given, but if any one can point me in a better understanding that would be great, I find it strange that no one on the internet has ever asked this question or talked about it as this my have given the spot on size

[Ivan in Oz]

What gets up my nose
is the number of people who get on here and WANT or NEED something,
without somuch as a Hello,
or Could you PLEASE Help.

Then,
There are those who do introduce themselves

try this for Metric
http://www.newmantools.com/tech/threadmf.htm

You might consider a [Borrowed] Thread Gauge



ArrHHH!!!
I do feel better now.
Also.
I will stay off of my Soap-Box for the rest of the night

[MadKad]

What gets up my nose
is the number of people who get on here and WANT or NEED something,
without somuch as a Hello,
or Could you PLEASE Help.

Then,
There are those who do introduce themselves

try this for Metric
http://www.newmantools.com/tech/threadmf.htm

You might consider a [Borrowed] Thread Gauge



ArrHHH!!!
I do feel better now.
Also.
I will stay off of my Soap-Box for the rest of the night

I own a big forum on the internet and this is something that has to be gotton used to lol, I have bolded my nice asking parts

[fxst]

So you own a big forum ...so why ask here?
BUT to help you with the threading you was halfway there ...go to a jewelry supplies company they will have what you need there. Probably easier to find in the UK/europe area due to population base. Forgive us colonials but we still follow net etiquette mostly though this seems to be failing too
Pete

[Grahame Collins]

I own a big forum on the internet and this is something that has to be gotton used to lol, I have bolded my nice asking parts

I agree with Ivan from Oz,
Ivan is dead right .There are too many that turn up here and want something,are too bloody ignorant to introduce themselves,get what they want and then PO again!

This needs to said :

You own a big forum on the internet! Hands up fellas ,Who is really impressed? Well why didn't you ask the question in your own Forum then?. Forum owners put up things called sticky's advising people to introduce themselves.Its very strange you weren't aware of that?

You will find we Aussies tend to be a little bit different in our temperaments.
Its a community of friends who in the main, have not met each other.As friends we tend to treat each other with RESPECT most of the time

On one hand,we will go to great lengths to give some one help, but come in with the wrong attitude and you will be soundly ignored. With you attitude and manner like yours , its something I suspect, you have already probably experienced IE gotton used to.

No wonder you can't get an answer anywhere on the internet.You don't seem to have very much of an idea of how to ask the question to get the answer you want.

If you really had the Internet experience that you claim to have, you should been savvy enough to have said something like " Here is a picture of the jewelers tapping plate and taps,etc " This would have been present in the first post.

Usually we can read minds, but we have to have some base material to work with!

Change your attitude mate or the group is very likely to treat you with ignore, from here on in.

I know I shall.

Grahame

[Woodlee]

Good onya Grahame ,I think that guy has a shortage of base material all round.

Why any one would want to stick them steel bits into thier selves has got me beat .
But I guess it takes all types of people to make the planet spin.

[MadKad]

WOW

I didnt come on here to kick off, I thought I asked nicely, I didnt meen to afend any one in any way and when I said I own a big forum on the internet I wasnt looking for any happeness from any one about that, the forum I own wouldnt cover this subject, I only ment I see alot of people not saying hello first.

I am great full for the help given and the time spent I have always been nice to people and thanked them for there help, I have never gone out of my way to call, abuse or anger any one with meaning to.

Note when i say i didnt find the answer anyware else I havent asked anyware I searched google for a number of days.

I am sorry I come on a forum to ask a question in what I thought was anice way, to get a return of angry people telling me I have done wrong.

Again thank you to the people that have helped and used there time on me with this matter.

[Fossil]

Hello MadKad.

Sorry on behalf of others. They are all generally, really very nice fellows . The last friendly reply you received was at 8:58pm.
You will notice that the replies you refer to were all posted after 9:00 PM local Aus time, which means that all forum members have had there mandatory daily fill of booze..... myself included.

Now that it is morning, local time........ There is a clock making forum on these boards. Mabey you could try some of the people there?

Dare I ask?????? What part of your body are you intending to stick that bar through.

Fossil

[MadKad]

Hello MadKad.

Sorry on behalf of others. They are all generally, really very nice fellows . The last friendly reply you received was at 8:58pm.
You will notice that the replies you refer to were all posted after 9:00 PM local Aus time, which means that all forum members have had there mandatory daily fill of booze..... myself included.

Now that it is morning, local time........ There is a clock making forum on these boards. Mabey you could try some of the people there?

Dare I ask?????? What part of your body are you intending to stick that bar through.

Fossil

I dont mind I do understand what they meen,

I see your a Joiner I am also by trade, I love wood

I only have a small number of piercings and nothing in them kind of places lol, as I make alot of things and love to do things as a hobby my friends have asked me to do some custom jewellery for them, so I thought I would give it ago, the die I have I tried today and found it did a good job but I think it could be better and a good quality die would be best for the job (I am looking into it the best I can).

I think the replies have helped me in a big way and I should be ok from here, I have contacted that website also and waiting on a reply, but I will also check the clock making forum as you said, the more I learn the better, This is such a big forum and I was told my forum was big, it just only covers computer, graphics and webmaster stuff so they cant help me.

again thank you for all your help.

[RufflyRustic]

Ivan, Graeme and Woodlee,

How freaking rude of you!!!! If I'd been treated like that, I too would never come back here. Do you realise your treatment is the very reason new members post "please be gentle with me" and other like phrases!!!

MadKad stated he had searched elsewhere with no luck, hence asking here yet you've pretty much ignored this.

Yes, we do get sick of newbies fronting up, asking their question, getting an answer and p'ing off again with out so much as a thank you, but GET OVER IT, It happens and there is not much we can change about it. The old saying comes to mind that the only person you can change is yourself.

I am very disappointed in the way you have treated MadKad. Would any of you like to be treated like this? I don't think so!!! So why do so to another member, new or not!!

This behaviour is unacceptable! Take Note!

Wendy G Hoey
Super Moderator
Woodworking Australia's
WOODWORK FORUMS

[Calm]

Ivan, Graeme and Woodlee,

How freaking rude of you!!!! If I'd been treated like that, I too would never come back here. Do you realise your treatment is the very reason new members post "please be gentle with me" and other like phrases!!!

MadKad stated he had searched elsewhere with no luck, hence asking here yet you've pretty much ignored this.

Yes, we do get sick of newbies fronting up, asking their question, getting an answer and p'ing off again with out so much as a thank you, but GET OVER IT, It happens and there is not much we can change about it. The old saying comes to mind that the only person you can change is yourself.

I am very disappointed in the way you have treated MadKad. Would any of you like to be treated like this? I don't think so!!! So why do so to another member, new or not!!

This behaviour is unacceptable! Take Note!

Wendy G Hoey
Super Moderator
Woodworking Australia's
WOODWORK FORUMS

Wendy

Yes the replies from Ivan, Graeme and Woodlee may have been slightly aggresive but there is no excuse for bad manners from anyone - even a newbie.