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Thread: disc sanders for refining cuts
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20th December 2011, 07:51 PM #1Senior Member
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disc sanders for refining cuts
Hi guys,
A few weeks back i bought a dry-cut drop saw with the intention of cutting stainless for more accurate miter cuts in square tube. long story short- don't do it! it's been very hard to find a blade suitable and the only ones i've been able to come across have a price tag of $500 and no guarantee it'll last for longer than a dozen cuts..
anyway, to the point. i'm clearly gonna have to stick to my horizontal bandsaw, so i'm looking for a way to refine the cuts to get the miters perfect. as i'm tigging decorative type furniture the better the fitup the better the end result, so accurate cuts and solid fitups are necessary.
i've had the idea of using a 12" disc sander to refine the miter cuts on the tube. All i can find locally are these woodworking disc sanders-
L131 | DS-300 Disc Sander | machineryhouse.com.au
Gregory Machinery - Disc Sanders - Jet JDS-12
there is an obviously huge difference in price (160 for the first and around 600 for the 2nd in store) but i was wondering if anyone uses a disc sander for this purpose in the first place, and if anyone has come across either of the above linked units and has comments or opinions.
thanks as always
corgan
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20th December 2011, 08:23 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Corgan,
Yeah those saws are great until the blade goes.
I thought your miter problems were mostly to do with the tubing not having flat sides?
You should be able to tweak the bandsaw to get you damn close. Whats wrong with it?
Have you looked at belt sanders? they might suit your needs better than a disc(assuming they dont cost the earth).
Stuart
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20th December 2011, 09:14 PM #3Senior Member
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Yeah mate the dry cut saw itself is great- and its really really good on mild steel (so i'll be keeping it instead of sending it back, just for my mild projects) but forking out 500 for a blade that isn't even guaranteed to last is beyond ridiculous
the main problem with the bandsaw is that the cutting bed isn't flat- the base of the saw is twisted so the piece can rock back and forth putting the vertical out of square.
i can get very close sometimes but other times it can be off - its just not real consistent. now that i'm fully aware of the wonky square tubing problem i won't be buying any tube i don't personally inspect, so that part of the problem should be gone. but i thought it'd be nice to have something in the shop that can fix any cut to perfection should the blade wander a bit etc.
truth be told im probably overthinking- i haven't cut a full frame in the bandsaw since the last batch of badly wonky square tube.
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20th December 2011, 09:20 PM #4
Hi Corgan,
I've got 3 of those H&F disk sanders, and they are excellent value for money. I use the velcro backed pads, but with the stick-on disks I think it's are bit more accurate than the velcro backing.
For cleaning up cuts, you would need to set up some jigs for 90 and 45 degrees, I've got a linisher and a bigger belt sander, but for quick cleanup jobs, I mostly go to the disk sander, I keep one for metal and the other ones for wood.
Definitely a good investment.
Regards
Ray
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20th December 2011, 10:16 PM #5I break stuff...
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And I thought my cold saw blades were expensive at $220ish each.... Doesn't seem so bad anymore.
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20th December 2011, 11:05 PM #6Dave J Guest
Like Stuart said a belt sander would be the go and you could clean up the welds with it as well. For the stuff your doing you can buy fine belts and scotchbrite belts at very reasonable prices ($10-$30) that you cold use to finish then with as well.
For your band saw if it's still under warranty, take it back and get a good one. If it's out of warranty ask here on the forum and someone maybe able to help you out by milling it flat or doing it with a shaper. You could also have it ground, car engine heads are about that length and cast iron, so you might be able to get a head shop to clean it up for you.
Dave
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21st December 2011, 09:10 AM #7Senior Member
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They sound like good suggestions- i've thought about getting it milled flat, wasn't sure if hafco would touch it as i've done a few mods to the frame (drilling holes for setting the fence at different angles, etc)
i'd still find good use out of one of the little disc sanders though for random projects.
i'm a little confused about the linishers/belt sanders and how they'd be set up to straighten cuts- the only one i''ve used was just a big belt on which you applied the workpiece by hand- no table or adjustable fence to allow you to set precise angles and hold the piece firm against. missing something?
jekyll- the normal TCT blades are about $200, for mild steel cutting. i'd still recommend the dry cut saw for this, as it's much much nicer than an abrasive and much quicker than a bandsaw
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21st December 2011, 07:52 PM #8Senior Member
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well i went ahead and bought the hafco sander- cleaned up 4 cuts and i'm pretty happy with it so far. It's pretty easy to touch up the cuts and get them dead on and i reckon this machine will see lots of use.
included is a little sliding miter fence that fits in a slot on the table but i think i'd be better off making another one as it's pretty flimsy and plastic
cheers
corgan
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