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9th November 2012, 01:06 PM #1New Member
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Double 45deg bends in an aluminium flat bar...??
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I'm fairly new to metalworking and getting a bit stumped on this one. I need to put two 45-degree bends in a 3x30mm aluminium flat bar, quite close to each other (about 10-20mm apart). So, kind of like a "Z" bend, except the angles of the "Z" are only 45 degrees, rather than 135 degrees.
I've attached a sketch of what I mean, in case my description is too confusing... :)
I've have a UB100 bar bender from Hafco, but there's two issues that make this gadget fairly useless for this problem: Firstly, the bends are too close together for the machine's bending plates. Secondly, I need the bar to remain as straight as possible - bending it in the bar bender, it is extremely difficult to get the bend at exactly 90 degrees to the aluminium bar, which results in the the bar bending slightly sideways. No good! :S
Could anyone point me in the direction of some kind of gadget that might help me??
Cheers!
Sal.
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9th November 2012, 01:29 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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How many do you need to make?
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9th November 2012, 01:32 PM #3New Member
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Ooh, only about 5 bars or so per month. Each bar is about 2-2.5m long, and will have about four of these tricky Z-bends in it, spaced evenly.
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9th November 2012, 02:15 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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When you say 10-20mm do you mean some times 10 sometimes 20 or some where around 15 will do?
Bearing in mind I am guessing at sizes, a block like this might do the job.
If you leave 30mm of the block at the bottom flat you can do the first fold on the bed of the folder, then flip the bar over, drop it in the slot and do the second fold.
As far as keeping the bar straight you'll just need some adjustable infeed/outfeed supports.
Stuart
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9th November 2012, 03:53 PM #5
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If you need sharp bends close to each other . You can hacksaw cut a slot halfway through the bar at the desired location , then bend it , you will have a sharp bend but you will have to tig weld fill the gap to regain the strength and file it down to make it neat . Mike
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9th November 2012, 04:30 PM #6
Press brake with 135-degree dies (plus springback allowance - establish by test).
Also test for consistent location of work points along the raw material.
For AL, you could probably use DIY concrete dies and ordinary hydraulic press.
Cheers,
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Hi,I just tried some 25X3 using a packer behind the second Z. If you wanted to, modify one of the blocks with a slot in it to go over the second Z.
Another you could try using a V block with a type of blade that could be mounted in the vise, I think Carbatec has something similar in their catalog,
(VERITAS Metal Bender cat. 50K08-01) 2010 catalog list price $32.00
If it is to be an on going project, you could get a couple of matching "V" blocks made that put both bends in at once.
Have done this for 50X5 FMS in a 20tonne press (500 off).
Kryn
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9th November 2012, 10:49 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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They are called a joggle. Seaching for making a joggle or bending a joggle will get you started.
Found a short You Tube video that is simple in principle and would work if you have a hydraulic press.
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Pete
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