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    Default Drill Arbor Query

    I recently won a nice 0 -1/4" Albrecht keyless chuck on Ebay. It has a No.1 Jacobs taper and has a 3/8" straight arbor.

    My query is has anyone seen or know where to find a 10 or 12mm straight arbor with a J1 nose taper? I have looked at the offerings on US, UK, French and German Ebay but there is nothing. I have also looked at the manufacturer's website but to no avail.

    Albrechts are supposedly the most accurate drill chucks available so I won't jeopardise that accuracy with some home made pretender.

    Any suggestions will be appreciated.

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    I would give Mick Moyle's Enginers Supplies in Summer Hill, Sydney a try BT. Their phone number is 02 9799 8444, and they are generally pretty good price wise, but the last drill arbor I got there was Chinese, I don't know if that is likely to be a problem for you or not. Nothing wrong with your own efforts from what I've seen Bob.
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    Bob, do you mean that the chuck has a 3/8" threaded end or hole?
    I would think that turning your own arbour between centres would be the go - with one of the centres into a chucked 1/4" dia female centre held by the mounted chuck itself.
    ALternatively, someone here with a cylindrical grinder oruniversal tool and cutter grinder could grind one between centres the same way....
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    I will probably be going to Mick Moyles tomorrow if I do I will see if they havje an arbor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    Bob, do you mean that the chuck has a 3/8" threaded end or hole?
    I would think that turning your own arbour between centres would be the go - with one of the centres into a chucked 1/4" dia female centre held by the mounted chuck itself.
    ALternatively, someone here with a cylindrical grinder oruniversal tool and cutter grinder could grind one between centres the same way....
    Cheers,
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    Hi Joe,

    There is no thread. The arbor is simply a round bar with a Jacobs taper on one end. I'm chasing a metric arbor because amongst the ISO 30 collets Charles Stroom sent me from Holland, is a 10 and a 12mm collet. I don't think these collets collapse the way ER collets do and I'm not prepared to wreck one trying to find out. If I have no luck finding a commercial arbour, I could have a crack at a home made version using some PG 4140.

    I had to go up to the shed to look at my dividing head. I had the camera. Here is an 0-1/8" Albrecht with the original 3/8" J0 arbor on the left. The sensitive attachment is from Royal in the States, a tasty morsel GQ procured for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welder View Post
    I will probably be going to Mick Moyles tomorrow if I do I will see if they havje an arbor.
    Hello Andre,

    If you do happen to find yourself at Mick's and don't mind asking about the 12mm arbor, I'll be grateful.

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    I am afraid that Mick Moyles didn't have a straight arbor. They said to try Blackwoods or turn down a mt2 arbor.
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    Thank you Andre.

    I imagine you bought something to add to your burgeoning collection.

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    All the adapters out there seem to be imperial for the jacobs taper or metric with a B taper.

    How about a 1/2" and turn the straight shank down 12mm between centres?

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    Nev,

    I looked at the Albrecht German website and it is as you have stated, B taper for a metric cylindrical arbor. I might be safer four jawing a bit of ground bar and turning a J1 taper on the end. I could even fool around for a day and a half with my tool post grinder and grind the taper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    I might be safer four jawing a bit of ground bar and turning a J1 taper on the end.
    Bob, I would expect better concentricity from turning between centres.

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    Depending on how good the T&C grinder is, it may be easier to set up a 1/2 " arbor on centres and grind it down to 12mm. Trying to set up a J1 taper could be difficult without several trial pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael G View Post
    Depending on how good the T&C grinder is, it may be easier to set up a 1/2 " arbor on centres and grind it down to 12mm. Trying to set up a J1 taper could be difficult without several trial pieces.

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