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8th September 2011, 12:12 AM #16.
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A couple of things.
Gregory,
I will scan a few pages from my Mahr catalogue tomorrow and post them here. There is some info regarding your block.
Ray, Dave.
Pursuing the stylus removal a bit further. While I have the 13 set up in the horizontal mode for sawing, I will slit a small block of cast iron to make a clamp for the spindle of the indicator. It will remove any risk of mutilation while I try to free the stylus. Nothing fancy, just a block I can hold in the vise. I will rebore the hole to suit the Compac and Mitutoyo indicators that seem to have frozen styli. While I'm at it, I'll make a similar clamp for the stylus. Could use the hacksaw but the mill's poised, ready to go.
BT
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8th September 2011, 12:48 AM #17Dave J Guest
Hi Bob,
Just a thought,
If your clamp is wide enough, could you do a stepped hole with the 3 sizes in the one clamp? This way it could be put away for use latter on if you have a stuck one.
Dave
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8th September 2011, 11:19 AM #18.
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Excellent suggestion Dave. Thank you.
Bob.
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10th September 2011, 10:26 PM #19.
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All my "stuck" styluses became unstuck by simply holding the the stylus between the aluminium keepers on my bench vice and carefully rotating the indicator. Of course, I don't possess the required M2.5 x 4.5 tap and die to make an extension. Found an Osborn tap in Sydney on Ebay and being keen to avoid postal delays from the States, decided to take my chances on a Czech CZ die from Bulgaria. Might sound obscure but I've purchased quite a few taps and dies from this seller. Bit of luck, it might roll up before I head off.
BT
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10th September 2011, 11:16 PM #20
BT you might like to try my man Georgi Zaharov in Ukraine also. He's got the inside track on that funky ex-USSR stuff as well as some German.
Grigor Q.
search George Zaharov on ebay. I 'd link it but I'm on my iPadIt's all part of the service here at The House of Pain™
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15th November 2011, 07:49 PM #21.
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A revision.
I had thought an indicator fitted with an extension that enabled the straddling on the travel stop would be a worthwhile improvement. The Mahr's plunger is a delicate 4mm in diameter and with a 50 mm extension affixed, the setup becomes precarious. Some form of protection was needed.
I made the half sleeve from 1045. I discovered that the 8mm hole I had bored in the original cast iron holder was skewed. It was not apparent without the extension in place. Could have caused me some dimensional grief down the track if I fitted a long travel indicator. I bored the 8mm hole out to 9.5 to suit my Mitutoyos and made a slit brass reduction sleeve to suit the Mahr and Compac indicators. I will make a new extension with the knurling outboard of the sleeve.
It's amazing how easy it is to find time consuming piddly little jobs that facilitate procrastination. I had intended to lay some bricks yesterday, now maybe tomorrow. Procrastination is easy, the bricklaying is required under the lounge wall.
BT
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15th November 2011, 09:56 PM #22GOLD MEMBER
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Hi BT,
Great work, looks like it came from the factory like that.
Why do you need to make a new extension?
"time consuming piddly little jobs" at least you finish yours.
Stuart
p.s. have you shown us the inside of the stop? I assume the Tee bolt has a hole through it.Last edited by Stustoys; 15th November 2011 at 09:59 PM. Reason: p.s.
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15th November 2011, 10:52 PM #23.
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No magic Stu
I will make a new extension because that one is a sloppy fit. I bought an adjustable 2.5mm die, made by Totem in England from a Ebay seller in Denmark this morning. Hopefully less slop and a more positive fit. I've realized after using these machines for a few years, that if something can turn to shi# when in use, it will.
BT
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Thanks BT, keeping that one.
Stuart
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15th November 2011, 11:29 PM #25
Hi BT,
Beautiful work, I see what you mean by time consuming and fiddly... nice knurls... wish I could do knurls like that...
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Ray
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16th November 2011, 01:14 AM #26.
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It's not difficult Ray.
I reckon good wheels are a prerequisite for a reasonable result.
The knurls are English, made by WDS and purchased from Blackwoods for about 30 dollars a pair maybe five years ago. You can find top quality American knurls on Ebay for a lot less.
The knurled items are 4140. The handle on my knurling tool provides sufficient leverage to bite into it. There is no way that the little Hercus could cope with the load involved in single wheel knurling.
BT
p.s. Another plug for a rear tool post. You can see what you are doing.
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16th November 2011, 11:44 AM #27SENIOR MEMBER
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Yep, I was still around, just crazy busy. Very nice work as per usual Bob. I like the reference to "Young" Pete, it was only when Greg made the comment that I realised you were probably referring to me
Where do you guys get the steel blackening materials here in Oz? Any idea of price? I typically just powder coat parts like this, but I guess that's not very traditional of me.
Pete
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16th November 2011, 12:53 PM #28.
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Hello Young Pete,
The details are here - https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/bl...cookup-124959/ http://www.blackfast.com/distributor...ntry=Australia
There are times when powdercoating would be my prefered option. The durability of the coating certainly beats the sprayed finishes I've applied. Obviously, there are also times when chemical blackening is the most suitable finish as it does not result in dimensional change or alter the temper of the steel. The stainless button head screws didn't colour up well in the Blackfast solution so I resorted to heat and sump oil. My intention is to replace then with countersunk screws. I bought a long 90 degree spotting drill on UK Ebay yesterday to enable the countersinking of the holes.
BT
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16th November 2011, 08:39 PM #29
Thanks BT,
I Appreciate the tips.
I have started shopping on ebay for better knurls... Form Rol GKS128 Knurl 5/8" x 1/4" Straight Teeth | eBay
I should make a better tool holder and practice a bit..
Regards
Ray
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Hi Ray,
I was taught to make the diameter to be knurled a multiple of the pitch of the knurls
Seems to work for me
Phil
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