Thread: Elliot 8-18 Surface Grinder

The base now now probably as clean as it ever has been in its 50 years. While im sure if I put a white glove on I would still find some dirt, I think its pretty bloody clean!


When I cleaned and flushed the way lube return lines, a big black sludge sausage came out and nearly got me in the face. One side was totally block meaning the oil would be overfilling and pouring out the ends. No wonder it has a moat of kitty litter around the base! All good now. Ill sloly reassemble thi machine in situ so I dont have to move it when its in one piece!



The Z height adjust assembly:


Cheers.

Simon

Its new home!

Hah no way was the machine that colour. You've made me jealous will have to clean up my mill now

Im also impressed at how it looks. Hence why im not going to paint it. Im going for the old but well cared for look!

Just installed the leadscrew and nut:



Its a pig of a job cleaning a filthy machine but I love the results!

Simon

Just like mowing the lawn Simon, hard work but a great result.
Great job so far.

Phil

I agree Phil. Thanks for the kind words!

Got the height adjustment gearbox and column back on and adjusted:

Originally Posted by simonl

Its a pig of a job cleaning a filthy machine but I love the results!

Simon

Not too bad if you use a wand for applying underbody sealer, kerosene, 120 PSI air and breathing gear. Added bonus, you usually kill a lot of grass.

PDW

Originally Posted by simonl

Im also impressed at how it looks. Hence why im not going to paint it. Im going for the old but well cared for look!
Simon

Phil calls that look, "Working Clothes" as opposed to factory fresh "Sunday Best"

Looks pretty good so far, the rate you are going it will be finished and grinding in no time...

Ray

Nice work Simon! Watching with great interest how it's all coming together.

Working clothes, yes that's probably a good description. I think I recall Pete F. calling it a "sympathetic re-build although I can hardly call cleaning a machine a rebuild, maybe a phycological rebuild!

Hi Joe, so far so good. Although it never ceases to amaze me that no matter how hard you try to organise and document every part and every nut and bolt, you still end up missing the occasional bolt! I have had to buy 3 bolts so far and although it's only a couple of $, it's not the point. It was there when I removed it, it's most likely been there for 50 years and now in a matter of a couple of weeks it disappears!

One of the lubrication oilers was not working during the hydraulic bench test to I have that apart ATM. I think they are a similar animal to what it used in one shot lubrication systems. It has an arrow indicating it has a non return valve. I have taken it apart and it was full of sludge, the same lovely stuff in the lube return line. So I have it soaking in acetone to try and loosen it up a bit. Hopefully it will unblock and come good.

Other than that, I'm about ready to put the saddle back on.

Simon

Originally Posted by wbleeker

Can you post a picture of it Simon? mine is a 20 x8 and I have a book!
I've also had it in pieces so know a bit about it!If you do pull it apart there are two little
one way oil metering valves connected to the table motion ram if these are put back in
the wrong way round you will get no oil on the ways, also you have to fill all the table reservoirs
first as these only supply a small amount of oil to keep the reservoirs full. I found all this out
because some idiot in the TAFE system had reassembled mine the wrong way around! Mine has
as new ways- you can still see all the scraping marks on it.
Will

Hi wbleeker, I need your help. I have one of those oilers out as it is not letting any oil through. It has an orientation arrow on the body which shows it to be corrected installed. I have taken one end off which has a small mesh filter, the main body does not seem to be able to be disassembled. I have soaked in turps and I have soaked it in acetone for a few hours but it's still blocked. Any ideas? Cheers, Simon

[QUOTE=simonl;181894 Although it never ceases to amaze me that no matter how hard you try to organise and document every part and every nut and bolt, you still end up missing the occasional bolt! I have had to buy 3 bolts so far and although it's only a couple of $, it's not the point. It was there when I removed it, it's most likely been there for 50 years and now in a matter of a couple of weeks it disappears!
Simon[/QUOTE]

That will be the renovation gremlins at work, when you have the job nearly finished, the little blighter s came back and put the missing parts in a tray that was empty. DAMHIKT. I've yet to find out how they can get into a locked shed though.
Kryn

Hi Kryn,

Well I'd like to blame some gremlins but unfortunately I think I only have myself to blame!

Anyway, I have had another play with these metering oilers and no joy. One of the two will not unclog and delivery ANY oil. I now have them soaking in shelite overnight in a last ditch effort. Not sure what else to do. Any advice would be much appreciated!

Thinking of just purchasing a couple of these in the 1/8" size. They are a No.2 :
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalo...ication-System

Will these perform essentially the same job?

Simon

A few years ago I rebuilt an Elliott 618 from a basket case. Although the 618 had a manual oiling system with a one-shot hand pump feeding to a manifold and distributed to the various oiling points, the one way valves were the same as you are having trouble with.

On investigation, pulling to pieces etc, then buying new ones of the various flow rates, I found that these type of metering valves do not "squirt " oil out. They work very slowly and require constant pressure to "ooze" the oil through. What is fairly critical is to use the type of oil recommended in the manual and place the various valves in their correct lines.

Peter