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    Default Emco Maximat V10 Lathe

    Emco lathes were mentioned in the thread about small milling machines and I recalled how I had encountered an example of a V10 at a used machinery sellers over here about six years ago.

    At the time I did not find the machine overly attractive. All squared off and sharp. Totally at odds with my 9" Hercus and it's more curvaceous and I will admit, complicated form. It was not well maintained, a couple of things were broken giving the little lathe a forlorn look. So when Pete F said " fiddling with the Emco was a delight." and PDW made his comments about the Maximat 11, I thought I'd have another look at the V10.

    The machine below sold on Ebay in the US back in March for $1,925.01.

    I do like the tee slot orientation in the cross slide and the milling attachment most probably has more Z travel than either of my mills.

    It is funny how tastes change ( or preconceptions disappear ) with exposure. I had difficulty with the shape of Schaublin's larger, post mid 60's lathes. Now I would make room for one though the chances of ownership of one of their Austrian cousins would undoubtedly be higher!

    BT

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    Hi Bob,
    I have not seen one of those lathes personally, but for that sort of money you could buy some bigger and better if you had the room.
    I had a Hercus for around 18 years and after upgrading to the Toolex 12 x 36 lathe I would never go back as it is much better.
    The squareness or curves don't bother me as I am more worried about about capacity and the features of a lathe/mill.
    The 12 x 36 is a lot more rigid, has power long and cross feeds and has the capacity to turn car fly wheels in it which I do ever now and again. Other than the bog job on the outside of the castings (which is a lot better than the H&F's lathes), I haven't found any quality issues with it in nearly 7 years .
    I wasn't on the internet when I bought it, and almost bought one from H&F's, but from what I have seen and heard on these forums I am lucky I didn't as there have been all sorts of issues with them.

    The mate I sold the Hercus to still has it and is happy with it for what he does, though if he had the funds he said he would buy a 12 x 36.

    Some people go after the brand name even though they maybe limited in capacity, because thats what they want, but for value for money these Chinese lathes are a good choice as long as you pick the right importer.


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    There's one for sale on Ebay (Canberra) with about 7 hrs to go, $1525 so far.

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    Some people will go for "bigger is better", others will go for quality. It's all a matter of personal preference. However there is no comparison to an Asian built lathe and something like an Emco.

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    So here's bigger AND better

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    Is that your new lathe Bob? Have you told your wife about that yet?

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    I spent 3 days moving the 13 into position in the shed. It weighs a bit over 500 kilos. That 150 tips the scales at 1250. Hard to sneak something like that into the shed and avoid detection.

    I downloaded a 150 brochure from the French website Joe provided a link to. There is a penciled price at the top of a page. 62,000 Swiss francs in 1978. That's 70,000 Australian dollars at today's rate. Serious dosh!

    BT

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    Thats a nice stout looking little lathe Bob, but for that price these days, it would buy you a nice CNC lathe where you could watch it do it.

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    Bear in mind Dave that I still draw using a pencil while the rest of you use SketchUp.
    I'd be lost on the CNC stuff. The manual 150 would suit me fine.

    BT

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    I agree Bob, but I couldn't see you paying $70,000 for a work shop lathe. For that price you could buy a CNC and lessons to use it, and also buy a new/used manual lathe.

    I wouldn't be happy unless I had a manual lathe in the shed. For the time it takes to program some parts it would be easier to manually make it.

    I see your going on holidays, have a great trip and I hope all goes well. Don't spend too much and if you do hide it on the way home.LOL

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    No, sadly not even in my dreams would I be spending 70 large on a lathe.

    What I like about the machining that I do is the opportunity to make spontaneous adjustments and alterations as I'm doing it. I know you do it. I imagine with CNC all the planning is finalised prior to pressing start. Not a lot of fun in that.

    The trip overseas takes in Berlin, Prague, Munich, Lucerne, Lyon and Paris. You can guess what I will be looking for in my travels.

    Thanks Dave. We will have a great time.

    BT

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    I have had the occasion to actually run my sweaty fingers over a pristine-as-new Schaublin 135C*. It was much better than my very high expectations.

    *(Privately owned, in this country)


    The U of WA Physics lab bought a 135 five or six years back. The manager told me they paid close to $100K

    I rather like my Hembrug the more I work on restoring it...nice combination of conventional features and size/mass. No gimicks...just a pleasant old-school lathe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Q View Post
    The U of WA Physics lab bought a 135 five or six years back. The manager told me they paid close to $100K
    Hi GQ,

    Reminds me of something someone once said....

    The only thing faster than light, is the rate at which the physics department engineering budget decreases... I guess, especially, when they have a liking for Schaublin.. (Warp 9)

    Regards
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    Default UWA Physics Workshop Equipment List

    They have a taste for Swiss. I don't know when this was last updated. I can recall seeing the same machines on the list a few years ago. Maybe I should go down there and dribble on the window.

    Physics workshop equipment


    Electric discharge machining equipment

    MachineRating/accuracy KTC "Ezen Plus" CNC EDM Hole Drill 0.08 - 4.00mmxxxxx0.05mm minimum wire diameter

    Lathes

    MachineRating/accuracy *Schaublin High Precision 120 0.001 mm **Schaublin High Precision 125 0.001 mm Sheraton Challenger 0.005 mm Sheraton Cub 0.005 mm Hercus 9" bench 0.01 mm Hercus 260 0.01 mm Holbrook C 0.02 mm Holbrook 0.01 mm Tos 0.01 mm Chin Yea 0.01

    Milling machines

    MachineRating/accuracy *Schaublin High Precision 53 0.002 mm **Schaublin High Precision N53 0.002 mm Johnford 0.02 Cincinatti 0.005 Kao Fong 0.05 Annayak 0.05 Pegard Horizontal Borer (second hand) 0.05

    Welders/Furnaces

    MachineRating/accuracy Miller Gold star 2.5 to 500 amps Linde Plasma 0.1 to 10 amps Hughes Mini spot Brew Vacuum & Inert atmosphere furnace (Secondhand) 1,370°C programmable Radyne vac brazing

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    Physics workshop : School of Physics : The University of Western Australia

    My mistake...it was a 125 obviously. Bob, see if you can't sneak one of those -53's out of there.

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