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24th September 2011, 01:05 PM #1.
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Emco Maximat V10 Lathe
Emco lathes were mentioned in the thread about small milling machines and I recalled how I had encountered an example of a V10 at a used machinery sellers over here about six years ago.
At the time I did not find the machine overly attractive. All squared off and sharp. Totally at odds with my 9" Hercus and it's more curvaceous and I will admit, complicated form. It was not well maintained, a couple of things were broken giving the little lathe a forlorn look. So when Pete F said " fiddling with the Emco was a delight." and PDW made his comments about the Maximat 11, I thought I'd have another look at the V10.
The machine below sold on Ebay in the US back in March for $1,925.01.
I do like the tee slot orientation in the cross slide and the milling attachment most probably has more Z travel than either of my mills.
It is funny how tastes change ( or preconceptions disappear ) with exposure. I had difficulty with the shape of Schaublin's larger, post mid 60's lathes. Now I would make room for one though the chances of ownership of one of their Austrian cousins would undoubtedly be higher!
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24th September 2011, 02:41 PM #2Dave J Guest
Hi Bob,
I have not seen one of those lathes personally, but for that sort of money you could buy some bigger and better if you had the room.
I had a Hercus for around 18 years and after upgrading to the Toolex 12 x 36 lathe I would never go back as it is much better.
The squareness or curves don't bother me as I am more worried about about capacity and the features of a lathe/mill.
The 12 x 36 is a lot more rigid, has power long and cross feeds and has the capacity to turn car fly wheels in it which I do ever now and again. Other than the bog job on the outside of the castings (which is a lot better than the H&F's lathes), I haven't found any quality issues with it in nearly 7 years .
I wasn't on the internet when I bought it, and almost bought one from H&F's, but from what I have seen and heard on these forums I am lucky I didn't as there have been all sorts of issues with them.
The mate I sold the Hercus to still has it and is happy with it for what he does, though if he had the funds he said he would buy a 12 x 36.
Some people go after the brand name even though they maybe limited in capacity, because thats what they want, but for value for money these Chinese lathes are a good choice as long as you pick the right importer.
Dave
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24th September 2011, 02:48 PM #3
There's one for sale on Ebay (Canberra) with about 7 hrs to go, $1525 so far.
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24th September 2011, 11:55 PM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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Some people will go for "bigger is better", others will go for quality. It's all a matter of personal preference. However there is no comparison to an Asian built lathe and something like an Emco.
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26th September 2011, 11:49 AM #5.
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So here's bigger AND better
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26th September 2011, 12:35 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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Is that your new lathe Bob? Have you told your wife about that yet?
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26th September 2011, 12:57 PM #7.
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I spent 3 days moving the 13 into position in the shed. It weighs a bit over 500 kilos. That 150 tips the scales at 1250. Hard to sneak something like that into the shed and avoid detection.
I downloaded a 150 brochure from the French website Joe provided a link to. There is a penciled price at the top of a page. 62,000 Swiss francs in 1978. That's 70,000 Australian dollars at today's rate. Serious dosh!
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26th September 2011, 01:18 PM #8Dave J Guest
Thats a nice stout looking little lathe Bob, but for that price these days, it would buy you a nice CNC lathe where you could watch it do it.
Dave
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26th September 2011, 01:29 PM #9.
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Bear in mind Dave that I still draw using a pencil while the rest of you use SketchUp.
I'd be lost on the CNC stuff. The manual 150 would suit me fine.
BT
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26th September 2011, 01:41 PM #10Dave J Guest
I agree Bob, but I couldn't see you paying $70,000 for a work shop lathe. For that price you could buy a CNC and lessons to use it, and also buy a new/used manual lathe.
I wouldn't be happy unless I had a manual lathe in the shed. For the time it takes to program some parts it would be easier to manually make it.
I see your going on holidays, have a great trip and I hope all goes well. Don't spend too much and if you do hide it on the way home.LOL
Dave
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26th September 2011, 02:03 PM #11.
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No, sadly not even in my dreams would I be spending 70 large on a lathe.
What I like about the machining that I do is the opportunity to make spontaneous adjustments and alterations as I'm doing it. I know you do it. I imagine with CNC all the planning is finalised prior to pressing start. Not a lot of fun in that.
The trip overseas takes in Berlin, Prague, Munich, Lucerne, Lyon and Paris. You can guess what I will be looking for in my travels.
Thanks Dave. We will have a great time.
BT
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26th September 2011, 02:10 PM #12
I have had the occasion to actually run my sweaty fingers over a pristine-as-new Schaublin 135C*. It was much better than my very high expectations.
*(Privately owned, in this country)
The U of WA Physics lab bought a 135 five or six years back. The manager told me they paid close to $100K
I rather like my Hembrug the more I work on restoring it...nice combination of conventional features and size/mass. No gimicks...just a pleasant old-school lathe.It's all part of the service here at The House of Pain™
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UWA Physics Workshop Equipment List
They have a taste for Swiss. I don't know when this was last updated. I can recall seeing the same machines on the list a few years ago. Maybe I should go down there and dribble on the window.
Physics workshop equipment
Electric discharge machining equipment
MachineRating/accuracy KTC "Ezen Plus" CNC EDM Hole Drill 0.08 - 4.00mmxxxxx0.05mm minimum wire diameter
Lathes
MachineRating/accuracy *Schaublin High Precision 120 0.001 mm **Schaublin High Precision 125 0.001 mm Sheraton Challenger 0.005 mm Sheraton Cub 0.005 mm Hercus 9" bench 0.01 mm Hercus 260 0.01 mm Holbrook C 0.02 mm Holbrook 0.01 mm Tos 0.01 mm Chin Yea 0.01
Milling machines
MachineRating/accuracy *Schaublin High Precision 53 0.002 mm **Schaublin High Precision N53 0.002 mm Johnford 0.02 Cincinatti 0.005 Kao Fong 0.05 Annayak 0.05 Pegard Horizontal Borer (second hand) 0.05
Welders/Furnaces
MachineRating/accuracy Miller Gold star 2.5 to 500 amps Linde Plasma 0.1 to 10 amps Hughes Mini spot Brew Vacuum & Inert atmosphere furnace (Secondhand) 1,370°C programmable Radyne vac brazing
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26th September 2011, 03:17 PM #15
Physics workshop : School of Physics : The University of Western Australia
My mistake...it was a 125 obviously. Bob, see if you can't sneak one of those -53's out of there.
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