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    What do you use?

    or are they like the rest of the household furniture & whitegoods...throw away?

    I know one can spend lots and get a Darex as GQ has pointed out in a previous post, but they are just too pricey

    Are those endmill holders that uses 5c collets that you can get from Enco/Travers

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    etc any good? (I have a small surface grinder), or would I be wasting my time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    What do you use?

    or are they like the rest of the household furniture & whitegoods...throw away?
    Here's how I do it.

    How to sharpen a HSS end mill using a cheap pencil air die grinder - YouTube

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    Nice job! When I first started watching the video I thought you were going to grind straight across (as some people do ... and then wonder why it doesn't cut properly!) but indeed all the angles look to be pretty good. Thanks for sharing.

    I use a 4 jaw for simple indexing like that, and have a little bubble level I rest of the horizontal jaw to establish the index. The downside is the 4 jaw needs to be dialed in, but with two keys it only takes 30 seconds, often less.

    Yes I have an endmill fastening fixture for my surface grinder. The issue is that by the time I put in a 5C to ER32 adapter and then the endmill itself, I runout of headroom. I have a full 5C collet set on the way from CDCO, as I now have a number of fixtures and machines that take 5C collets, that makes the 4th set of collets I own and use I expect that should solve the headroom issue and I'll let you know how it goes. I believe they work quite well however. It would be quite feasible to purchase just the collets as you needed them for each size.

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    thanks Rob

    Pete, report back as soon as you try it out..ta

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    Usually it's the corners that dull. If you don't actually need a sharp cornered cut, you can replace the corner with a small 45* facet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete F View Post
    Nice job! When I first started watching the video I thought you were going to grind straight across (as some people do ... and then wonder why it doesn't cut properly!) but indeed all the angles look to be pretty good. Thanks for sharing.

    I use a 4 jaw for simple indexing like that, and have a little bubble level I rest of the horizontal jaw to establish the index. The downside is the 4 jaw needs to be dialed in, but with two keys it only takes 30 seconds, often less.

    Yes I have an endmill fastening fixture for my surface grinder. The issue is that by the time I put in a 5C to ER32 adapter and then the endmill itself, I runout of headroom. I have a full 5C collet set on the way from CDCO, as I now have a number of fixtures and machines that take 5C collets, that makes the 4th set of collets I own and use I expect that should solve the headroom issue and I'll let you know how it goes. I believe they work quite well however. It would be quite feasible to purchase just the collets as you needed them for each size.

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    Pete
    did you ever get those collets from CDCO? and if so what was the outcome?

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    Yes I have the collets. I've only used a few sizes, but so far they're fine. I haven't used the fixture for the surface grinder however as I now have a dedicated end mill sharpener. However from the previous fiddling I did with it, I'd expect the fixture to work just fine albeit not as quickly as the Darex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete F View Post
    Yes I have the collets. I've only used a few sizes, but so far they're fine. I haven't used the fixture for the surface grinder however as I now have a dedicated end mill sharpener. However from the previous fiddling I did with it, I'd expect the fixture to work just fine albeit not as quickly as the Darex.

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    thanks Pete

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    This is how I sharpen end mills Eskimo,

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    Grinder attachments (8).JPG IMG_2781.jpg Endmill grinding jig (4).jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer View Post
    This is how I sharpen end mills Eskimo,

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    Grinder attachments (8).JPG IMG_2781.jpg Endmill grinding jig (4).jpg
    Can't beat Harolds designs! Still on my rondtoit list.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    Can't beat Harolds designs! Still on my rondtoit list.....
    It's worth doing Ewan.
    Soooo easy to use

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer View Post
    This is how I sharpen end mills Eskimo,

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    ta Phil...I'll do a search on gooogle for plan...mmm might even have it in my ebooks

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    Its in Harold halls sharpening book, this one: Tool AND Cutter Sharpening BY Harold Hall Paperback 2006 1854862413 | eBay
    Actually i just looked in my copy and its not the same as Phils jig.....But there is a lot of good sharpening stuff in the book, including jigs for split point drill sharpening (hehe), all sorts of cutter sharpening, small drill bit sharpening etc.

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    Is there an easy method of sharpening the outside flutes ?

    I have a weird looking accessory for my T&C grinder and I think it is used for just this purpose . It will twist the tool as it is fed into the grinder ?

    How is this done, normally ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    How is this done, normally ?
    Sounds like it. Got a picture?
    Doesnt have an air fitting on it does it?

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