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Thread: Freeby of the Year
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29th September 2008, 11:37 AM #16
If it's free then doesn't matter about tooling. Compare the cost of a f/p and 4 jaw plus mounts to any s/h lathe.
Pommies use center height yanks swing. Both round down for obvious reasons. Many lathes are "named" an inch or two below their actual capacity. People buying new lathes either know what they are buying or find out conversing with the sales guy. Manufaturers don't care about s/h sales and besides don't get bad press for pleasant discoveries.
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11th November 2008, 06:56 PM #17
Well its all go ,I'm heading to Darwin on or about the 19th of this month to arrange removal of the lathe and milling machine.
I think the lathe is a Mk1 Edgwick not the Mk2 like I hoped ,any way it's free so who cares.
Hopefully I wont forget my camera and Ill take some pics.
I'll keep you all posted .
Kev."Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend ,inside a dog it's too dark to read"
Groucho Marx
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12th November 2008, 12:40 AM #18Senior Member
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Great stuff Kev. Look forward to seeing the pics. I see one of the machinery dealers has an Edgewick down south somewhere....can't remember which company.
Cheers
Craig
Brisbane
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12th November 2008, 07:31 AM #19
A week to go Kev lets hope your name isn't the one drawn for the Bunnings Vouchers might have to be a re-draw then But hey you got the best freebie this side of Christmas
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22nd November 2008, 01:29 AM #20
Well here s the pics of the lathe and the mill ,and the bloody tiny doorway through which we had to get them out.
What a job it was to move them out of the tiny workshop they were in .
It was stinking hot and humid , I was soaked with sweat for two days ,even my shoes were squelching on my feet .You know how your skin on your hands wrinkles up if you spend too long in the bath ? Well my hands were wrinkled from the sweat.
The lathe had 1/4 " to spare getting through the door way ,but the mill was too wide ,I had to remove the table winder handles to get it through .
Any way with much effort and grunting the job got done.
The lathe appears to be a MK1 Edgewick not the MK2 like I was hoping , but it still has the indexing gears on the spindle , the hole in the tool post to mount a boring bar and the arched bed .It maybe an early Mk 2 or a late Mk1 .
It's bloody heavy , and very rigid .The headstock cover is not bolted on at all k ,but just sits on top ,I lifted the cover off and had a quick look in side ,all the gears appear to be in excellent condition and every thing is shiny with no rust.
It will need some tlc and a good clean and oiling .The motor has been removed so that we could get it out of the workshop door .The guard for the vee belt drive is so heavy I struggled to lift it by myself ,its made of cast iron 3/8 thick . The chuck on the lathe is a high quality Taylor tapered scroll chuck ,unfortunately it has only one set of jaws ,which is typical of Taylor chucks as the out side clampng jaws were optional and were very expensive ,so most who bought them never bothered with the second set of jaws.
There are two face plates and another three jaw chuck body ,but no jaws with it, maybe able to get some jaws for it ,once I clean it up and see who the maker is. Came with a steady as well.
I also got a brand spanking new Piper MT3 live center and about 600 bucks worth of tungsten carbide tool tips and some large HSS steel bits.
The mill is a very neat machine , no names could be found on it ,but there has been two Id plates on it at some time in the past.
It has done only light work and all the slides and ways are like new.
The head swivels to 90 deg both ways and also pivots at the base of the turret.
It needs only a light clean up an oiling and it will be ready to go.
I suspect its an early Taiwanese machine ,but its is very solidly built .
I first saw this machine about 22 years ago when I had some work done by the gunsmith who owned it .He was very particular about his tools and machines and this mill is in very good condition.
I got a few pieces of tooling with it ,the cutter that's in it and a fly cutter and a collet chuck and a few other odds and sods.
I still have to get them down from Darwin , that will happen in the next few weeks.
For now here are some pics. Just check out the size of the workshop where these machines were housed, very cosy indeed ( like you need cosy in the tropics)
Kev"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend ,inside a dog it's too dark to read"
Groucho Marx
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22nd November 2008, 06:55 AM #21Senior Member
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Hi Kev,
Nice score but how did you shift the stuff out of the workshop - too heavy to physically carry so did you use scates, rollers or just snig it out??
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22nd November 2008, 08:27 AM #22Senior Member
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Kev
I reckon a Mk1. The end cover design looks quite different to the Mk2.
It looks identical to the Mk1 here http://gentools.ihub.com.au/DesktopD...37&TabID=91566
The mill is definitely a Taiwanese job. I can't remember the model that Hafco used to call their's and have seen one the same at a clearance auction down here a couple of years ago.Cheers
Craig
Brisbane
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22nd November 2008, 09:02 AM #23
The top half of the mill looks to be identical to a myford 1AS. I was under the assumption that the 6x26 mill that is widely produced in Taiwan and China is based on this machine, but I might be mistaken. The Myford 1AS may be from Asian origin, but I thought that most Asian machines were original copies of other machines. Here is a piccy off a page scanned from MEW.
Anyway... Great pickup Kev!! I am looking forward to seeing them cleaned and setup.
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22nd November 2008, 10:28 AM #24
Yes we used skates and a Toyota troopie to pull it out .The mill was a bit more difficult as the lathe was blocking the door way ,once we got it to the edge for the door the front skates got stuck on the edge and disappeared under the mill . but we had it far enough out for the crane to pick it up.
Hux,
The lathe in the pic is slightly different as far as the clutch lever goes ,but I reckon a mK1 also .
This lathe looks a bit daggy , but will clean up nicely , the bed is in excellent condition with no wear marks .It also has a dowelled removable gap which is in good nick.
Just need to organise a 4 jaw chuck and another three jaw ,or some jaws for the one that has no jaws.
I am going to get a copy of the manuals from lathes Uk later.
Fossil ,
That looks very much like it.
Happier than a pig in sh*t
Kev"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend ,inside a dog it's too dark to read"
Groucho Marx
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22nd November 2008, 10:46 AM #25Senior Member
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Nice pick up Fossil. Given the Edwick is also a good quality english lathe there is a fair chance it is a Myford.
Kev,
It will be interesting to see some better pics of the lathe when you have time. They are obviously well thought of when you consider the $4400 price on the other one which has had a lick of blue paint.
Being a toolroom lathe might mean they have been saved from the rigours of production work. As yours was once a smiths lathe it is no doubt in good nick under the grime of 50 yrs machining.
Actually your is in the best condition when buying - ala naturale - no hidden secrets under a lick of enamel.
Well done - as you can see we are all jealous.Cheers
Craig
Brisbane
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22nd November 2008, 05:59 PM #26
Kev nothing like a bit of grunt and groan push n pull swet to make a man happy.
just hope you haven't worn down the feet to much and lathe and mill is un-balanced
Now whats this about picking up chuck jaws all this fine machinery and your not going to use it parking it in the shed just to gloat and look pretty
Well done now for a safe journey to its resting/work place
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