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  1. #1
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    Default GMF 6'' Junior bench grinder

    My dad gave me this grinder yesterday. It runs very smoothly, but even with the wheels fitted it comes to a stop within about 10 seconds, which seems very quick. Maybe the bearings are shot?

    As you can see it has no guards, nor does it have any obvious way of mounting guards. Does anyone know if they were made without guards?

    It has a 5/8'' arbor and looks like it is made to take 1/2'' wide wheels. You could squeeze a 3/4'' wheel on, but the outer flange would be riding on the thread which sounds a bit dodgy. This little fella may not be able to drive a 3/4'' wheel anyway.

    I'm thinking of stripping off the old paint and hitting it with a spray can of blue/green hammer finish paint.

    Any tips, tricks, warnings appreciated.

    Jack

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    I have no idea at all but seeing there is no guarding or tool rests is it possable that this particular model would of been suited to buffing rather than grinding.

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    Could be. It doesn't have a HP rating stamped on it, but is rated at 2A. I guess that makes it about 1/2HP. Would 1/2HP be enough to do buffing with? Don't buffing wheels fit on a tapered spindle?

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    Most do but I have seen types of wheels that fit with use of flanges.
    1/2 should be ok depending on how much load you were to put on it.

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    Good pick-up.

    If there are drilled and tapped holes in the bosses at each end of the body, chances are it did have guards, now long gone. The tool rests would have been fitted to the guards.

    Stopping in around 10 seconds might be normal without the momentum of grinding wheels fitted.

    New bearings and a lick of paint wouldn't go astray providing you mask off the name plate.

    Ken

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    Hi Ken,

    the 10 seconds was with the wheels fitted. It's cold here today, and the grinder also labours when starting, even without the wheels. I think I know why. I removed one of the pressed steel cups from the side of the machine. Under the cup is a roller bearing which is packed with a very thick brown grease (it looks like Vegemite). The bearings are retained by circlips. I'll remove the bearings, clean & re-lube (or replace) them. Is grease the appropriate lube for grinder bearings?

    There are 4 tapped holes in the ends of the castings, so it looks like the covers are long-gone as you suggest.

    Jack

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    Bearings that have no grease run forever once the motor stops because they have no load from the grease, I would guess the excessive grease you mentioned may help stop it and its only a small grinder so the wheels wont have as much energy as say a 12" wheel

    If it runs good then why play around with the bearings? why would it stopping fast be a problem
    happy turning

    Patrick

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    Default Nice well built old machine

    I would pull it apart and clean the bearing out and anything else in there from sitting for so long.
    6 inch grinders are cheap these days ($25-$50) so I would just buy one and use this to power something else or as a buff as said above.

    Dave

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    eBay purchase with guards attached with bolts to tapped holes on main body. Takes 50 seconds to stop spinning. Hope this helps.

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    HI jack620,
    Here is some Information that I found on Your Grinder http://www.titaniumstudios.com/toolj...6-Grinding.pdf . Keltrader's Grinder looks liike it might have 3/4" Wheels on it - Hard to tell from the photo. If it does have 3/4" Wheels this could explain why it takes a while to stop. Bigger Wheels more momentum, so a longer time to get going and slow down or stop. I have a Chinese 6" Grinder (1.0 Amp) that takes about a 1 Minute to stop (had to count no watch) it has 20mm Wheels on it.
    Grease is fine for the Bearings. I would certainly clean out the Old Grease and Relube them as the old Grease has probably gone a bit hard with age. Good luck with Your Grinder.
    All The Best steran50 Stewart

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    Keltrader,
    thanks for the pic & info. So mine is definitely missing the guards.

    Yours looks very nice. Did you buy it like that or spruce it up yourself? It looks like a 3/4'' aluminium oxide wheel on the right and a 1/2'' or 3/4'' carbide on the left. Is that right?

    Stewart,
    thanks for the link. I'll repack the bearings with grease if they aren't stuffed. How's the fishing at Malacoota these days? I need to get back there with the boat soon. It's the only place that I can consistently catch fish! First trip was 34 years ago as a kid. Last trip was 2 years ago with my own kids.

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    Gave it a paint job. Mounted on base that has suction caps for portability and stability. 3/4 on right 1/2 on left. It's a general workhorse as I have four other dedicated grinders. Regards Kel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keltrader View Post
    Gave it a paint job. Mounted on base that has suction caps for portability and stability. 3/4 on right 1/2 on left. It's a general workhorse as I have four other dedicated grinders. Regards Kel.
    Your as bad as me, I have 5 bench grinders all mounted with different wheels for different jobs...It's a pain trying to explain to people why I need so many
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew_g View Post
    Your as bad as me, I have 5 bench grinders all mounted with different wheels for different jobs...It's a pain trying to explain to people why I need so many
    HI,
    If You had another Two Grinders then You could Say that one is for Monday and That one is for Tuesday and so on.
    All The Best steran50 Stewart

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    Keltrader,
    Stewart,
    thanks for the link. I'll repack the bearings with grease if they aren't stuffed. How's the fishing at Malacoota these days? I need to get back there with the boat soon. It's the only place that I can consistently catch fish! First trip was 34 years ago as a kid. Last trip was 2 years ago with my own kids.
    HI,
    The Fishing has been Good. The Tourists and Locals alike have been Catching plenty of Bream. The Flathead are off the Bite though until it warms up again. The Gummies were good over the Summer, but some had trouble getting onto the Ocean Flathead. They were getting Big Salmon (Salmon only good for Fish Patties I Say) near the Entrance area so I am told. We have had a lot of Rain lately and still more to come. The Water in the Lake has been up and the Water is a bit dirty now, because of the Rain up in areas like Bombala River Flowing down Stream into the Mallacoota Lake. I never seem to find the Time Myself nowdays to Go Fishing, I always seem to be to Busy.
    All The Best steran50 Stewart

    The shortest way to do many things is to do only one thing at once.

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