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31st March 2009, 12:41 AM #1Senior Member
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Guitar Repair
How would you do this? I have a couple of ideas but never having anything to do with guitars before I would like other ideas.
The pins which hold the strings need replacing and the holes need to be repaired. The pins are ok but they are tapered and fit a straight hole, which makes no sense to me, and the holes are worn making the pins a loose fit.
The owner said he wanted brass pins made to match the old which I think would be useless in the worn holes. Could I drill out the holes and install some sort of metal bush and then make a straight pin from brass and cut the necessary groove for the strings? Would this work or would making them from a nylon of some sort be better? Is it necessary to have a tapered pin for it to work?
Here's a pic of the guitar and the problem.
Nev
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31st March 2009, 07:26 AM #2
This post is in the wrong place. Put it in the musical instrument section to get replies from members who know guitars rather than metalwork.
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31st March 2009, 08:00 AM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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couple of things you could possibly do
1) buy a replacement part. I have seen guitars where the strings are retained with metal parts and the whole lot is mounted on a metal plate that is screwed to the guitar body. Would probably be the fast option but not the cheapest.
2) use a good quality epoxy to fill the hole, using a release agent on the pin, and using
the pin to get the shape required in the hole.
3) machine a brass or alloy insert with a tapererd hole, (would need a tapered reamer for this I would think) and epoxy in place in the guitar. Machine matching pin. You often see tapered pin reamers for sale on ebay and you would be able to buy them from most good engineering supply places.
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31st March 2009, 09:43 AM #4
I think the pins a tapered to allow the strings to come up through the hole.
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31st March 2009, 09:52 AM #5Senior Member
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I should add that replacement pins are not available. The pins also have a groove in the side for the string. This can be seen in the pic if you look closely.
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31st March 2009, 10:24 AM #6GOLD MEMBER
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FIrstly, the holes for the pins should be tapered. They are made with a reamer to match the taper on the pins. They come in 2 different angles to match the pins - you can get 3 and 5 degree. Once that is done, then the top of the hole is usually coutersunk a little. There are heaps of different replacement pins available. I don't recall ever seeing brass, but they may exist. If not, and if brass is what is needed, then you will need to turn them to the precise angle, with a head, and then slot them. The pins have a slot in the side that the string travels through. They are a friction fit and so the angle of the pin and the hole needs to match pretty well. If they are really too loose, then I have no idea. It may even mean replacing the bridge - although I have to think there's a better way. To be honest I wouldn't try doing this without t least some experience in guitar repair.
There is an article here http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luth...himendpin.html on a repair for a loose end pin. It may work for a bridge pin as well. If it were me I'd still taje it to a professional.
PeterThe other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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31st March 2009, 01:52 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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I saw where you asked this on another forum and one reply was to ream the holes to the appropriate taper and use oversized pins. That sounds like a good solution to me. You can get the reamers at a few different places. Probably some of the luthier supplies places in Oz would carry them - and a selection of pins.
PeterThe other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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