Thread: All hail the shaper gods!!

Hi Ewan,
Happy birthday from me as well, it's all down hill from here mate, LOL

Great news about the shaper, makes it 2 less worries.

Dave

Hi,
Pretty tired so this will be short....
Pics show what we ended up removing. Pallets are 1200x800 for size comparison. The poor table's T slots have seen better days.
Lots of chunks of steel leaning up against the machine
I asked one of the guys if there was any more tooling, he just made it clear that they had taken everything they wanted away and that what was left was fair game....
Tucked in behind the Queen was a little surprise, the guy told me it was part of the lotnot that i have a great need to make bolts.......
Ewan

The T slots re not that bad, I have seen a lot worse. The way around that it to make up long T nuts to bridge the area.

Nice score on the other machine, probably worth a few bucks in it's day.

The tooling was a good score and will keep you going for a long time before needing any more.

Any idea of what you think the weight of the rest is? Did you throw a crow bar under it to see what you thought it weighed?

Dave

I also forgot to say, this is the best way to get a machine in bits, that way you can clean all the ways when it's going back together and it's ready to go. When you get a complete machine in the shed your more likely not to pull it down for a proper deep clean.

Dave

Originally Posted by Dave J

When you get a complete machine in the shed your more likely not to pull it down for a proper deep clean.

Dave

Well said, Dave. One day I will properly clean both my lathe and shaper!

Nice one Ewan. Hope you put it in the right spot in the shed.

Ben

Ok, so i'm a little bit more alive this morning than i was last night-still bloody sore though, that was one workout yesterday!

We did look at removing the ram, but to do so meant removing the ram position screw-easy right, knock the pins out of the bevel gear and thrust washer and simply thread it out the back of the ram. Unfortunately the pin in the thrust washer was well and truly stuck so the ram stayed on.
The foreman there said he had been there for 20 years and the machine had never been turned on. The ram and knee rise and fall were stuck, but as soon as we loosened the gibs they came free. The rise and fall bevel gears are in pretty bad shape, it appears that there may have been a shield on them to keep the shavings out but it is missing, so the gears have been eating BIG heavy shavings.

The only 2 things that seem to be missing are the knurled flat washer that goes behind the toolholder (one can be seen on the vid i posted earlier) and the ruler from the ram travel indicator. It looks like its there in the Grays photo but it was actually a piece of bandsaw blade sitting there. The original handle in included and i'd say by the bolt pattern and alignment lugs the vice is original.

We lifted the rest of the machine in 2 goes with the crane and put it on blocks, then one of the guys weighed it with the fork. It came in at 1250kg or so No trouble moving that on the 2 ton truck i have lined up.

The motor is 5hp, driving a 4 speed box with three "B" section V belts. I expected the drive from the gearbox to be a flat belt, but it is SIX B belts. The clutch is neatly hidden in the final driven pulley, so i'd say it was original with the V belts. There is then either open geared or back geared in the machine for 8 speeds total.

The flywheel has a female dovetail on it and the "arm" (someone may enlighten me as to what its called) connecting to the ram has the male dovetail, certainly alot more sophisticated than a bronze block running in a groove in the arm.

The Asada machines are still available today from H&F for about 6k, i have no idea how old this one is or even if it works. Not really something that i need, but maybe i'll find a use. Making nice big threaded rod comes to mind (it with go up to 1")

Well this post is getting pretty long-winded and i have bookwork to catch up on.

Ewan

Nice work Ewan. Not sure what you have in mind for unloading. Is it a crane truck or do you have some other plan? Once on the ground (floor) they move well on pipes apparently. Thought I had a pic of a big Cinci on pipes but can't find it.

When's moving day? Don't forget to charge your camera. We want to see that semi-naked big-boned girl swinging in the breeze.

Hi Bryan, I saw a pallet jack under his lathe, so he should be able to move it around on that easy enough.
I found once I got mine all together my pallet jack has moved it around many times with no troubles even with the vise etc on it, as it's rated for 2500kg.

Dave

Originally Posted by Bryan

We want to see that semi-naked big-boned girl swinging in the breeze.

Hey, a little respect for the Queen if you please...

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by RayG

Hey, a little respect for the Queen if you please...

Regards
Ray

Nah, no queen, she is one big heavy muma, LOL

Dave

Ewan,

Sounds like you had a fun day.

I would recommend that you take the plate off the gearbox and check inside for crap and moisture. Mine was very "yucky" to say the least. Included heaps of grease (maybe to quieten the straight cut gears and khaki coloured oil). Wonder if it was owned by the army!!

The oil was very thick but that could be contamination by the grease.
I have drained & flushed the box and it is soaking overnight to try and soften the bottom sediment.
I will try 68 hydraulic oil and if too noisy 90 gear oil. There was no strong "diff" smell to the oil so maybe they used engine oil.

Ken

Hi Ken,
I would have had just the thing here for flushing that gear box out.
My son's, girl friends mum (what a mouthful) went and filled there new 4wd up with petrol when it's a diesel, her husband asked what fuel she put in because it was not running right, so after checking he found the tank smelled like petrol.
My son and him drained the whole 100 + liters and we lent them containers to go get more diesel, so I got the lot for the parts washer, 50/50 petrol and diesel, LOL

That was a few months back and the 4wd is still running fine, they where so lucky, but then so was I.

Dave

Nah, no queen, she is one big heavy muma, LOL

Dave

Well i never. Phillip, call the army. Our subjects are exercising there freedom of speech again. We are not amused.

A big machine like that needs a masculine name, Queen just doesn't suit it.
I bet your calling it other names by the time you get it in the shed and back together again, LOL

Dave