Thread: All hail the shaper gods!!

Hi Ewan,

Good to see she made it home safe..

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by Bryan

Ewan, great to hear you got her home safe. Thanks for the pics. If you use the Manage Attachments button below where you type (is there an echo in here?) you get the thumbnails. But I prefer the way you did it. Thumbnails are better for detailed stuff.

It only concerns me if people are still on dial-up and it takes 5 min to load the page...I seem to be a pic-a-holic.

Ewan

Good to see it's home safe. It looks about the size of my Alba.

Dave

Good to see you have her home safe and well. Bit of a project ahead then eh what,
What have you done?, na just kidding, honest! .
I personally like the photo's coming up as it saves clicking on the small ones, but for anyone on a slow connection thumbnails are better as they can just choose which pics they want to see larger.

Keep up the good work Ueee.

Cheers.

If I'm not right, then I'm wrong, I'll just go bend some more bananas.

Hi Ewan,

Looking forward to watching the Queen come to life, that's real American "heavy iron" stuff...

Just looking again at how you had the load secured, I'd be happier if you had chains stopping the load from moving backwards and forwards, while you got there ok this time, it's something to keep in mind for next time.
The rule of thumb is that you need twice the restraint capacity stopping the load from moving forward (if you had to brake suddenly) that you have for the load moving backward.


This is how the varnamo was secured when I picked it up.



The chain is 8mm transport chain, two sets stopping moving forward, one set stopping backwards movement.

As I said, something to keep in mind for the next bit of "heavy iron" you collect...

Regards
Ray

+1 on what Ray said, the load looked scary to me. Better to be safe than sorry.

Dave

Although it may not look like it in the pics, the base of the machine is hard up against the front of the tray. I can tell you it didn't move at all over the 180 kms or so, even over some pretty rough roads.
Ewan

Hi Ewan,

You made it safely, that's the main thing, and I guess if it's hard against the front of the tray it's not going anywhere, I just usually go for overkill on that sort of thing.

Looking forward to seeing it cranked up...

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Ewan,

Looking forward to watching the Queen come to life, that's real American "heavy iron" stuff...

Just looking again at how you had the load secured, I'd be happier if you had chains stopping the load from moving backwards and forwards, while you got there ok this time, it's something to keep in mind for next time.
The rule of thumb is that you need twice the restraint capacity stopping the load from moving forward (if you had to brake suddenly) that you have for the load moving backward.


This is how the varnamo was secured when I picked it up.



The chain is 8mm transport chain, two sets stopping moving forward, one set stopping backwards movement.

As I said, something to keep in mind for the next bit of "heavy iron" you collect...

Regards
Ray

Hi Ray,
Did you hire or buy the chains, if you bought them could you tell me where from?. I've seen the over-centre tensioners that the truckies use but haven't seen the ratchet type as you have in the pic.
Thanks.

Cheers.

If I'm not right, then I'm wrong, I'll just go bend some more bananas.

Hi,
Its actually great to hear your concern about the tie downs as it shows you guys really do care. (not that i doubted it). I'm sure i have seen similar ratchet chain tensioners before Log, but i can't think of where.

I plan to do some rearranging tomorrow so i can fit everything in, but just wanted to ask about the chips off the shaper. How bad do they get? (i know thats a how long is a peace of string question) Just some idea would be good.
I was thinking that pointer her at a wall would be best, so that the chips can't fly too far, but this makes loading and unloading her and her vise difficult to say the least (i need to use the crane for the vise). I know i can make a shield up later to catch the chips, but that will be later. The other annoying thing is the rise and fall handweel is on the "other" side of the knee so she can't go too close to a wall.
Is it correct that the rise and fall of the knee should be tight and will need to be loosened to be moved?

One last thing, does anyone know a cheap(er) supplier of oil cups, i will need at least 3 new ones, (there are 6 total) they are the wick type and about 30mm dia, 1/4bsp? One is missing entirely, and 2 don't have lids. I think replacing them all would be best.

Ewan

Originally Posted by Log

Hi Ray,
Did you hire or buy the chains, if you bought them could you tell me where from?. I've seen the over-centre tensioners that the truckies use but haven't seen the ratchet type as you have in the pic.
Thanks.

Cheers.

If I'm not right, then I'm wrong, I'll just go bend some more bananas.

Hi Ewan,

I've got a heap of 6mm oil nipples, but not oil cups, with wicks..


Hi Log,

I bought them from the local truck servicing/repair place, but anywhere they sell transport stuff will have them, they are a special rated transport chain, 8mm is good for 4 tonnes 3800kg. The ratchet tensioning things are called "load binders" and you should be able to get them wherever they sell the chains. Just make sure they are rated for transport usage, there are other ratings like lifting chains etc..

... pause for google search...

Ok here is a site that will give you an idea of what to ask for... Secure A Load

Regards
Ray

Hi Ewan,
I am about to some at work. Very easy to do. If you like I can take some pics to show what I am doing.

Phil
Ps sorry Ewan I am talking about the oil cups. Wick feeding type.

Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer

Hi Ewan,
I am about to some at work. Very easy to do. If you like I can take some pics to show what I am doing.

Phil
Ps sorry Ewan I am talking about the oil cups. Wick feeding type.

Thanks Phil that would be great

Ewan, shaper chips will ruin your shoes and annoy you. They can also be a fire hazard. But putting it too close to a wall will create problems too, as you say. I deal with it by sweeping up with a magnetic broom after a job, and sometimes during. I think the best answer is a chip catcher, like Michael G's. I will build one some day. Maybe he'll repost a pic or a link.