Thread: All hail the shaper gods!!

WARNING: THIS POST CONTAINS PICTURES OF NAKED MACHINES
Hi,
Well, i got nothing done yesterday, but made up for it today.....The main body in now stripped, and all the internals as well. I then hit the body with a flap sander to remove some of the little lumps and dags.
So out came the paint, just a plain black for the internals, and a base/shadow coat for the rest. I keep telling myself i won't go nuts with filler, but i think once i get the knife in my hand i just won't be able to stop! If i do a dodgy job now i know i'll kick myself every time i look at the machine!

Ewan















and one for the rogues gallery.....look, i'm still wearing my glasses

Hi Ewan,

Nice to see you don't muck around, the rebuild is pretty well advanced in only a few short days...

It looks like it's going to come up like a new one.

Regards
Ray

wow when you go back a week and see what it looked like its come along way.
Keep up the hard work, you'll be making chips in no time.

Stuart

Ewan,
probably too late, but it was strongly suggest to me to paint the insides of machines white.
If you ever need to find a leak or a dropped nut or bolt or whatever, black makes it VERY difficult. I just painted the insides of my lathe white (it used to be red oxide only) and the difference is unbelievable!
I've now decided to put a shelf in the base to store accessories in, insted of shutting the door and letting it gather dust. Everything inside it is now very 'accessible'.
Cheers,
Joe

As the others have said, you have come a long way in a short time. Also what Joe said makes sense, might do that myself.

I see there is no mask/respirator mark on your face, your as bad as me not wearing one. You will live a lot longer if you cover up from breathing that old pain dust.

Keep up the great work.

Dave

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Ewan,

Nice to see you don't muck around, the rebuild is pretty well advanced in only a few short days...

It looks like it's going to come up like a new one.

Regards
Ray

Thanks Ray, I'm trying to make up for Lagging on blondie. Its amazing how not having a shaper already has spurred me on. I will also loose my shed next week, as SWMBO and i own several florist shops all my space gets overrun by flowers! So i have to get some sort of organization by the end of the week.

Originally Posted by jhovel

Ewan,
probably too late, but it was strongly suggest to me to paint the insides of machines white.
If you ever need to find a leak or a dropped nut or bolt or whatever, black makes it VERY difficult. I just painted the insides of my lathe white (it used to be red oxide only) and the difference is unbelievable!
I've now decided to put a shelf in the base to store accessories in, insted of shutting the door and letting it gather dust. Everything inside it is now very 'accessible'.
Cheers,
Joe

Thats a great suggestion Joe, i'll keep that one locked away for the future. Not sure if it is such a biggy with the shaper as anything dropped will fall through to the concrete, and there is no internal oil resevoir. Having said that there was a bronze washer sitting in the bottom of the arm, no doubt dropped there from the stroke length adjuster. Not that it could be seen until the arm was out though.

Hopefully i'll get the flywheel and arm back in by the end of the week, i plan to put them in before the final paint just in case....then not much will happen for a week or so.
Making chips with her is all i can think about Stu!

Ewan

Originally Posted by Dave J

I see there is no mask/respirator mark on your face, your as bad as me not wearing one. You will live a lot longer if you cover up from breathing that old pain dust.

Yeah, i know, i hate the ####ing things, it's an achievement for me to be wearing glasses. I figure i'm not breathing the stuff all the time, unlike the asbestos workers did and spray painters do. Thats my excuse anyway....hey arn't you a smoker? Shouldn't i be telling you you'll live longer if you stop....My Father in law always says he has to die of something, may as well be fags!

Ewan

Ewan,

Your dedication is astounding! How do you find the time?
She is coming along great, an inspiration.

Cheers Ben

Originally Posted by Ueee

Yeah, i know, i hate the ####ing things, it's an achievement for me to be wearing glasses. I figure i'm not breathing the stuff all the time, unlike the asbestos workers did and spray painters do. Thats my excuse anyway....hey arn't you a smoker? Shouldn't i be telling you you'll live longer if you stop....My Father in law always says he has to die of something, may as well be fags!

Ewan

Just last night I was using the air blower on the mill to clear chips from the vice to reload more parts, and then bang strait in the eye even though I have done it a thousand times. After getting it out, I put glasses on only to find 1/2 hour latter I was doing it with them on the top of my head as I forgot about pulling them down.

I do try to remember them as much as possible and always wear them now with grinding, up until 10 years ago I was frequently at the after hour getting a grinding bit out of my eye, when they told me I had stuff that had looked like it exploded on impact and had made it's way into my eye ball I took more notice and started wearing them, as the old squint your eyes does not work that good, LOL

Look forward to your updates, are you sure you don't have a crew of guys working for you with all this progress? LOL
As for the flowers your other half would not be happy with grime and spray paint all over them, LOL

Dave

Hi,
My "team" of workers was hard at it again this arvo, after another round of bog last night she has now had a first coat and i'm pretty happy. Still a few casting flaws but lets just call them character. A note on that, i had to get some new spot putty and plastic metal so i went to supercheap. They are getting rid of there 3M range (here in Tuggeranong anyway) and it is all half price.

A thought occurred to me this morning, that i had better check the dovetail guide for the stroke adjustment.
The ways are worn towards the middle of both the fixed side and the gib, as well as the bottom of the ways. With my pristine starritt square ruler and feeler guages i reckon its about 1 thou hollow on all sides (smallest feeler is 1.5 thou, just won't go). Yes i used both sides of the ruler just in case its bent (better not be!)

Due to the forces acting on the dovetail i'm wondering whether it is worth fixing while the machine is apart. If it was a smaller machine i would probably not worry but getting the ram and arm off to get to the thing is not a small job. I would also need to remove the flywheel again as the dovetail parts are bolted on from the other side. The Male part of the dovetail has already been repaired with braze at some point, and the gib looks new-it is clearly ground at each end. Having said that she will come apart again one day, hopefully, for a full way scrape.

Ewan

Originally Posted by bwal74

Ewan,

Your dedication is astounding! How do you find the time?
She is coming along great, an inspiration.

Cheers Ben

Hi Ben,
I am in a lucky situation, being self employed may not be all that it's cracked up to be, but it does mean i get some time. I still work at least 8 hours a day, but i do those hours first thing in the morning and in the arvo/evening. As i do deliveries for the flower shops, i have plenty of alone thinking time (yeah, i know i should be concentrating on driving) so i can get in the shed and just do, without having to wrap my head around the how, in what order etc. As i said earlier though, i do lose my shed twice a year for Valentines day and Mothers Day.

Hi,
I ended up cleaning up the dovetails just a bit, mostly with a file and some scraping. I had to file the bevel gears back a fair bit too, but they feel nice now. They looked as though they had eaten a fairly healthy shaving or two, and where running with way too much clearance. My "team" has just spent the last 3 hours or so putting the flywheel, arm and ram back on. She still needs another coat of paint, but i'm glad i left it till after i put her innards in as i did damage some paint around the door opening putting the flywheel in (through some cloth mind you)



Arm and linkage weighs about 90-100kg....




Once again, not bad for a video off my phone....Amazingly the fast return can easily be seen with a stroke of only 6"

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Now all i need is a slave so they can turn it over and i can just watch......

Ewan

Coming along, at least thats all the big inside bits back together. How where the bearings for the arm etc?
When I said about a crew above, I was only mucking around as you had made so much progress.

Dave

Hi Ewan,

Freddie, is looking pretty happy, I still think you should be playing "we will rock you" when she fires up for the first time...

Seriously, that looks great, it's always good to see an old machine coming back to "like new" condition.

Regards
Ray