Thread: All hail the shaper gods!!

well FM your a braver man than I Ewan

well done and I look forward to seeing pics of it in action
I reckon that it's going to be heavy
I also think you have just become the president of the shaper support group

cheers
Harty

Hi Ewan.
Congrads on your new machine.
I'd say that nut is for adjusting the position of the stroke(with a horizontal screw). The first nut you mentioned is is for locking it in that position once you've adjusted it. Bryan would be the man to tell you how to get that to pieces.

Does your trailer have a winch? while you might be able to lift it with an engine crane I doubt you'll have the reach to put it down in the middle.

Stuart

Ueee,

Nice one. That is one big machine, so is the vice! I reckon she tip the scales at 1 tonne??

Are you going to restore it or run it the way it is?

Good luck.

Ben

Take off the ram and table and lift it with an engine crane, not likely,
The ram will come off once you undo the adjuster and the gib.

You would need at least 2 engine cranes and even then you may struggle because of the extension you will need to reach over it.
Can a tilt tray truck get to it, or can you move it to where he can.

With my 24 inch Alba we stripped it all of like you are going to do, and a back hoe barely lifted the main casting.

A few of us here have 24 inch shapers, and another member posted his here a few months back that was delivered on a tilt tray.

Dave

Originally Posted by bwal74

Ueee,

Nice one. That is one big machine, so is the vice! I reckon she tip the scales at 1 tonne??

Are you going to restore it or run it the way it is?

Good luck.

Ben

I reckon it will be more like 1.5tonne the shapers I have shifted have been heavy for there size my little 18" was 750 kg and a 20inch invicta was 1.25tonne


cheers
Harty

Now that's a shaper. All hail the president. Well done Ewan.

Phil

Congratulations Ewan, that's one impressive bit of machinery, good luck with the move.

I think a 24 inch shaper will come in at over 2 tonnes, I saw on-line somewhere a 24" Cincinnatti was 5400 lbs.. at a guess the lower limit might be 1.5 tonnes.

As Phil & Harty already said, you've just been elected unopposed president of the shaper support society!... congratulations!

Regards
Ray

Hi Ueee,

Good one there, and a whopper, hope it's in reasonable nick under the grunge.
No it wasn't me who bid, I've enough stuff to muck around with for a while.

It's way down south somewhere isn't it? Did I see this mentioned in another thread and, you? mentioning that you were going to go for it? If so I wouldn't have bid against anybody if I know they were going for it anyway.

Cheers.

If I'm not right, then I'm wrong, I'll just go bend some more bananas.

Give the man a cigar. Congratulations Ewan. Dave is right - forget engine cranes. I've got a "3 Tonne" engine crane and it can barely lift my shaper, and certainly not move it. The boom has to be in the 1.5T position.

I believe my 18" shaper is around 1200 kg so the high end of Ray's estimate looks right to me. The Americans like 'em big. Before deciding to tow it you need to do your homework on the ratings of your lifting gear, vehicle, towbar and trailer. If you 'go cowboy' and someone gets hurt you would find yourself in a very bad place. You bought it for a song, spend a hundred on a crane truck and save your energy for fun stuff.

WACKO !!!!!!!
It really must be the week for it.

Originally Posted by harty69

well FM your a braver man than I Ewan

Well i don't know about brave, maybe still young enough not to know what i have gotten myself in for....

Originally Posted by harty69

I also think you have just become the president of the shaper support group

Well i don't know about that, surely there are other 24" shapers in the "group". All i can think of is the old saying (which i cannot finish in this forum) "Its not the size or the speed, but the.............that does the job" I think maybe we should change it to "its not the size or the speed but the grind of the tip that does the trick"? I see t-shirts.......

Originally Posted by Bryan

Give the man a cigar. Congratulations Ewan.

Thanks to all the congrats, i'm pretty chuffed about it. Nice birthday pressie for yesterday! I'll take that cigar too, but i won't light it till the fat lady sings.

As for weight, the 3900lbs i had found on PM was for a 20", so Rays estimate is probably spot on, 4500-5000lbs. Definitely truck territory. As i havn't been there i don't know if i can drive right up to the machine or not. Being a silo factory i assume it will be a pretty big "shed". i think i'll do some reconnaissance this sunday, pick up any "bits" before others get a chance to grab them and see just what the access is like
I'll have to wait and see what state its in under the dust and cobwebs before i decide what to do. The weep marks under the ram oilers are a good sign its been lubed. I don't really what to pull it to bits with Blondie on the go. (actually i havn't touched her in a few weeks)

Log, there was a bidder from Logan reserve, which is in south east Queensland and i put 2 and 2 together and got 27......Amazingly the other bidders were from all over the country, VIC, QLD and some close. 5 bidders in total i think for the Shaper.

Interestingly there was also a Biernatzki mill, i would have bid on if it had stayed at $109, but the price skyrocketed in the last few minuets. Biernatzke were made in east Germany around WW2.

Ewan, Now looking at trucks.....

Originally Posted by matthew_g

WACKO !!!!!!!
It really must be the week for it.

Yes, between yourself, Dave J and i we've done pretty darn good (hence the title of this thread)......and here was me giving you the you suck award earlier.....how bout, we split it three ways?

Hi Ewan,
Congratulations from me as well, I ducked in earlier and posted, then while I was down the shed watching the power feed do it's thing over and over I got thinking that I never even congratulated you, sorry about that.
I don't think you would have got one cheaper. I paid $300 for my Alba, but without a vise which ended up being another $150, so it ended up costing me $450.

Look forward to updates.
Dave

A big Happy Birthday for the 17th Ewan, personally I couldn't think of a better present.
Love the saying but I don't think you cleaned it up very well.. but maybe thats just my mind going back to the gutter again

Phil