Thread: Hard to find imperial oil seal for ELLIOTT MT 48/4000 Lathe

0.8mm (actually 0.77mm) is quite a bit undersize. Maybe a 58x85? What width is this seal?

Nev

Hi Nev,
Width is .5, 1/2 inch, will the under size be out of spec.
Bruce

Sounds like a 58 X 85 X 13 to me


Shaft Housing Seal OD W
mm 58 85,00 85,25 13,00
inch 2.283 3.346 3.356 .512

Originally Posted by .RC.

Sounds like a 58 X 85 X 13 to me


Shaft Housing Seal OD W
mm 58 85,00 85,25 13,00
inch 2.283 3.346 3.356 .512

Thanks for that, looks like the 58 85.25 13 should be ideal, its interesting that at both bearing seal places I went to neither could find a compatible size.

Do you know if 58 85.25 13 would be a available size.
Regards

Not spotted a 85.25 OD anywhere yet. The 58x85x13 (or12mm) seem to be quite common. Here's a couple.

Metric Oil Seal 55mm-64mm Internal Diameter at Rocket Seals

Lip design is different. One seems to have a dust seal the other has not.

Nev

Originally Posted by SurfinNev

Not spotted a 85.25 OD anywhere yet. The 58x85x13 (or12mm) seem to be quite common. Here's a couple.

Metric Oil Seal 55mm-64mm Internal Diameter at Rocket Seals

Lip design is different. One seems to have a dust seal the other has not.

Nev

Size looks ok, at 58 85 13 but I do need it in metal outside due to the circlip groove it has to pass over.
Regards
Bruce

Originally Posted by argeng

Size looks ok, at 58 85 13 but I do need it in metal outside due to the circlip groove it has to pass over.
Regards
Bruce

So far 2 bearing/seal suppliers have told me that all seals now days are rubber only on the out side, both have inquired with their suppliers for overseas supply of metal outside old stock but once again they are saying not available. OK so what do you do if you need to install a seal past a circlip groove.
Regards
Bruce

Originally Posted by argeng

So far 2 bearing/seal suppliers have told me that all seals now days are rubber only on the out side

I see plenty of seals available with metal outer. Just not the size you need yet.

Nev

Originally Posted by argeng

both have inquired with their suppliers for overseas supply of metal outside old stock but once again they are saying not available.

Depends on who their suppliers are....

Have not yet seen a CR seal with rubber covering (not that I have seen a lot of CR seals though).... I think National are the same.... NAK are all rubber exterior though..

Originally Posted by .RC.

Depends on who their suppliers are....

Have not yet seen a CR seal with rubber covering (not that I have seen a lot of CR seals though).... I think National are the same.... NAK are all rubber exterior though..

BCS or BSC in Wellington Rd contacted their supplier of CR seals and apparently there are no old stock in the US. Bearing Wholesalers in Bayswater think one of their suppliers may be able to source from Europe.
So what do you do if you need to install past a circlip groove if all that is available is rubber exterior????

Cheers
Bruce

There's a common front wheel hub seal that is available in a 62x85x10. Any way you can add a sleeve to make up for the larger ID?

Nev

Can you fill the circlip groove with silastic or putty till you have the seal in place?

Roger

One thing you could try is bedding the seal in with a little gasket goo - if the outer has been cut such that it doesn't seal properly then the goo will take up the slack.

Michael

A chamfer on the inner edge of the circlip groove??