Thread: Hardinge 5C Collet Brochure

Hi BT,
I believe like the Blake they can find a center mark. Not sure how that could be done with a DTI.
Other than that they are really just a DTI that doesnt turn so are much more
user friendly.
Also the Blakes get less accurate as the size of the shoulder/bore increases. The centricator should be as accurate through its size range(?).

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Hi BT,
I believe like the Blake they can find a center mark. Not sure how that could be done with a DTI.
Other than that they are really just a DTI that doesnt turn so are much more
user friendly.
Also the Blakes get less accurate as the size of the shoulder/bore increases. The centricator should be as accurate through its size range(?).

Stuart

Stuart is right about the Blakes, plus there is an sensitivity degradation with the longer probes as you'd expect.

I did not realise they could locate the center of a hole. I now have a rekindled interest. Thanks Stu.

I found an alternative, non budget sine table for GQ. I imagine the thing would be more versatile than the Deckel offering. The seller will even ship to Australia.
No.3 MOORE 12.5" x 14" Micro Sine Table | eBay

BT

Thanks Bob...too bad Heather already bought me a belt for Christmas

I think that's a pretty adventurous ask...$8,800 for a sine table. Who even uses those things anymore?

Here's the Deckel thing I was referring to for €290:

Target offer refunds...

I can recall seeing an illustation of the sine attachment being used to set up a head for a stint of angular milling. It looked a bit awkward. Like you need three hands.

BT

Yeah, plus it's got magnets on two sides which might end up being more of a frustration than its worth as it would always find some swarf to screw up the accuracy.

I already have a shop-made sine bar that was gifted to me that I suspect I may only very rarely use.

GQ

Hi Greg,
Thanks for that table, it confirms something I'd always visualized but never bothered to check the math on. As the bores get larger the accuracy comes back(not been much of an issue as I'm not boring 12" all that often ) Still its nice to know.

Such a pretty sine table(though why all the flaking? I wonder if thats factory). At that price I think you'll have plenty of time to save up Greg.

Stuart

I don't think that there's any way that flaking is factory. Moore were known for precision to an astonishing standard. Gratuitous flaking, especially uneven flaking, would have been anathema to them. I have a couple of their books and cannot recall ever seeing anything flaked.

I was going to mention it earlier as it was the first thing I noticed, jarring as it is.

Greg

Back to the task at hand:

Deckel Fräsmaschine Zusatzteilvorrichtung für Deckel Rundtisch | eBay

Originally Posted by Greg Q

Back to the task at hand:

Deckel Fräsmaschine Zusatzteilvorrichtung für Deckel Rundtisch | eBay

Obviously a task not being taken too seriously, it's still for sale!

Same seller. Same frosting.

11" MOORE 'Ultra Precise' Hz./Vt. Rotary Table | eBay

I guess as I'm not likely to buy it the useless flaking doesnt matter to me, but it does seem a pitty.

Those adds look like the sort of thing I'd be running if SWMBO ever talking me into trying to sell some of the "stuff" in my shed lol. "no no I'm trying to sell it really I am"

Still an interesting piece of gear, anyone know what the chart on the inside of the lid is trying to tell us?

Stuart

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

Same seller. Same frosting.

11" MOORE 'Ultra Precise' Hz./Vt. Rotary Table | eBay

Bob
I would like to own this. Just to open the box every so often & just stare at it
regards
Bruce

Originally Posted by Greg Q

I think that's a pretty adventurous ask...$8,800 for a sine table. Who even uses those things anymore?

Ahem... looks at floor, shuffles feet uneasily, that would be me... I have been using that Omer Robbins compound sine table a bit, for what it does it's an essential setup tool. The downside is I don't have gage blocks, so every job starts with making custom gage blocks. But for $8800, in the immortal words of Darryl Kerrigan.... "tell him he's dreaming..."

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Such a pretty sine table(though why all the flaking? I wonder if thats factory). At that price I think you'll have plenty of time to save up Greg.
Stuart

Aren't they usually hardened (I mean, really hard) and ground, flaking that sort of surface would be tough going, it's not like it's induction hardened cast...

Strange stuff...

Regards
Ray