Thread: Hardinge 5C Collet Brochure

Bob
Very nice Collets, with a variety of uses.
Bruce

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

More from the library. This time a small catalogue showing the 5C range produced by Hardinge. Might be of interest to some. Might aid Greg Q in the augmentation of his collection.

BT

I am trying vewy vewy hard to be good Bob

I have just bought a Deckel part from Germany and now I have to go busking on Bourke St. to pay for the shipping. I wonder where I put my lederhosen and accordion?

You'd have a drawer full of long socks I imagine!

Yeah, you need the long ones with the garter at the top. You get yerself in a good slap dance and the last thing you need is a hose failure episode.

I was thinking more along the lines of Polka classics, but maybe a Heidelberg Castle style slap dance is the way to go: sure to be a crowd pleaser. Draws the kids in. I wonder where I can round up some like-minded Oktoberfest mavens?

You Swiss machine fans have got it good...You guys can sit around drinking hot chocolate and maybe give the ole' Alpen Horn the odd blaaaat.

If you fail to locate your's let me know the size and preferred colour. I'm sure I'll be able to choose from a selection of post Fest, lightly abused lederhosen when in Munchen next month.

BT

Speaking of slap dances...I'd like to put the boots to my 5C collet seller. They just arrived, chewed up and rusty. Grrrh!

Yeah, rust removes the shine from the purchase. Sadly, it's an experience we've both shared.

p.s. I should have asked earlier, what did you buy. A spiral milling attachment?

No, I got the two-jaw chuck that looks like a vise for the dividing head.

I don't think I'd take a spiral milling gismo if it was free...just more stuff to store and never use. There is a rare and useful gadget here that I could get but I don't think I'd ever use it, and its $500.

I "won" a very rare original F.Deckel dial indicator last year on GermBay for €18 but the putz seller decided he wanted €160 for shipping. He got my best wishes and nothing else.

Greg

I don't think I'd take a spiral milling gismo if it was free...

Can I tempt you? Have a look at "le diviseur differentiel" 1:49 into the clip.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFf75JbPgPI&feature=related]Le Fraisage - Partie 2 - Les accessoires et diverses fraises - YouTube[/ame]

Yeah I know, they are cool as hell, but have you seen Singer's price for one? As much as I paid for the entire mill + zubehors almost.

They all seem to be in unused condition (TOP! Zustand!) too which makes me wonder if they were ever used in anger.

Greg

Originally Posted by Greg Q

No, I got the two-jaw chuck that looks like a vise for the dividing head.

Hi Greg, I'd guess it's something similar to this
I was browsing around the forum and found a pic of your Deckel FP1 from last year, the accompaning post said that you were planning to give it a refurbishment? Just wondering how this is progressing?
I have an RTM - 2 (Japanese FP1 replica) that I may give similar treatment.

Hi Brian...yes the zweibackenfuter looks exactly like that. As you know the Riken and Deckel were effectively identical. Did you get your Riken a couple of months ago on ebay by chance? I asked the seller of that mill (which was wonderfully equipped) to sell the two-jaw chuck separately but he declined. As it turns out the deckel item popped up shortly afterward, as did the very small special boring head which I bought also.

The mill refurb is stalled right now. I have not decided if I will scrape it first or get it running and assess it further. It has been mostly painted but I need to re-wire it and otherwise tidy up some aspects like way wipers and oilers. The x-axis screw and nut has been replaced and other little improvements made.

I need also to make some permanent storage for the (now) complete pile of attachments and accessories as well as continue work on another mill and lathe project.

Greg

Originally Posted by Greg Q

Hi Brian...yes the zweibackenfuter looks exactly like that. As you know the Riken and Deckel were effectively identical. Did you get your Riken a couple of months ago on ebay by chance? I asked the seller of that mill (which was wonderfully equipped) to sell the two-jaw chuck separately but he declined. As it turns out the deckel item popped up shortly afterward, as did the very small special boring head which I bought also.
Greg

Hi Greg, yes it was the one listed a few months ago (I'd narrowly missed out on a real tidy aciera f4 & 95% of its accesories, and luckily the Riken showed up soon after and the funds were available) .
I picked it up a few weeks ago down at mount waverly and brought it home (a bit over a thousand clicks - one way), and I'm now awaiting the electrician to connect the box and put a 20 amp plug on. The former owner as you probably know used to make those tangential diamond tools.

I am pleased to have scored as many accesories with it as i did, because the cost to buy all these individually and not even have them matched/ integrated to the machine (as they are with that concept/style of machine) would be astronomical. Does yours have a high speed head with the independent motor? I'd look to get one - however i'm not sure just how interchangeable genuine fp1 attachments are going to be with the Riken so i'll have to do some carefull measurement and comparison?

And if you have the slotting head, do you have any experience with it?


I do appologise if i'm sending the thread off on a tangent

Hi Brian...Don't worry about going off on a tangent. Any thread that I get involved in quickly goes that way.

I didn't know that the Riken came from the tangential tool holder guy (speaking of tangents). Has he retired?

My Deckel came with the slotter, divider, Wholhaupter boring head, vertical, horizontal supports, universal table, Clarkson, and arbor and a few collets.
Since then I bought (and all at a steal, FWIW) the high speed head, microscope, the vernier dial for the dividing head, an original rotary table, slotting tools, a fixed table, the zweibackenfutter and the small boring attachment. So, apart from the helical milling and punch milling tools it is complete. As an aside, it seems that the less useful, the rarer and more expensive a Deckel accessory becomes. I imagine that's true of all these machines.

I saw that Aciera and thought that it would go that high. I think it was cheapish at that price owing to the truck load of accessories. As you know, a European universal toolroom mill is only as good as the mass of (weapons-grade unobtanium) attachments you have.

Let me know if you need any measurements of my do-dads.

Greg