Thread: Anyone heard of RSB??

Originally Posted by DSEL74

Thanks Phil. I'll have a good read of those.

Do you have access to leather flat belting and lacing?? Or a supplier?

We still have a tannery in Ballarat. All our lacing comes from them. Not belts though. Seems the big beasts aren't around anymore. Camels were used for belting as well.

Phil

This looks similar:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pillar-dri...item3f3144601f

There are some similarities, he claims it is a UK drill with a USA gearbox???? Has Superior written on the body. Which I have seen on US drills.



Here is me trying to work out what to do next…
Duct tape and masking tape pulleys…Should work yeah..maybe with a little WD40
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Stripped the paint back off the centre of the table and it is almost rough cast?? Either that or it was seriously rust pitted before and cleaned filled and painted.. Needs to be reground
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Thinking og making a little depth stop for it, cardboard and a scribe for mock up.
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Need to make some sort of bracket for the rear pulleys to fit to this. Love to find a proper stepped cone pulley with a mount..
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Just so I remember the make
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Examples of the rear Pulleys and Drive Pulley.

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Tried a spring like this for the return but it didn't work.
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It needs to be a coil/clock spring.
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This one is from a more modern Walker Turner I think.
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I might be able to make this out of some brass all thread to go in my cardboard mounts?
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If I could find a little bracket like these it would make life a whole lot easier..

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Any ideas on finding one, maybe a old belt drive grinder, small lathe headstock or some thing else i could repurpose??

This looks similar:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pillar-dri...item3f3144601f

All up, that is some machine. Notice that the table surface is not shown.

DSEL, the table on your drill is unusual. I am interested in the reason for such a design. A facing cut on a mill or shaper would be enough for a drill press table. I may be difficult to mount for a cleanup cut tho. I don't suppose there are machined surfaces underneath to register? May have to use the column mount to set it level. Not a lot of clamping options when drilling on it. How solid is the table?

My immediate thought for cone pulleys was to fabricate them from pipe etc. I would suggest a search around scrap yards. Not exactly an original thought.

Dean

Originally Posted by Oldneweng

This looks similar:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pillar-dri...item3f3144601f

All up, that is some machine. Notice that the table surface is not shown.

DSEL, the table on your drill is unusual. I am interested in the reason for such a design. A facing cut on a mill or shaper would be enough for a drill press table. I may be difficult to mount for a cleanup cut tho. I don't suppose there are machined surfaces underneath to register? May have to use the column mount to set it level. Not a lot of clamping options when drilling on it. How solid is the table?

My immediate thought for cone pulleys was to fabricate them from pipe etc. I would suggest a search around scrap yards. Not exactly an original thought.

Dean

Dean the table is mega solid and weighs a tonne!!

The underside has round edged tapered webs so, no there is no registration surface. It would have to some how be held via the column clamp internal surface or left on the column. I don't have facilities or knowledge to do anything much more than scotchbrite it. Be nice to have the arc of shame filled before any real attempts to resurface.

The design is quite unusual the centre is raised and there is no lip on the upper edge, underneath I think it has a round bead. Not ideal for any sort of clamping work to the table.

Be nice to have the arc of shame filled before any real attempts to resurface.

No need to worry. I have lost count of the number of comments I have read or viewed regarding the happy smile being there "when I bought it".


It would still be better not to have that uneven surface to deal with. Not all that easy to fix. One of the meat filling products. Other members would know much more than me. This issue was mentioned recently in another thread.

My drill press has a small nick on the inside bore of the round table where I miscalculated. I now run the spindle down until it enters the bore and make sure the drill bit is in the centre, even if I am not going to drill to table depth.

Dean

As some showed interest here are some photos of the underside of the table.

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Hi Dale,

Did you find out anything about the company? What RSB stands for, where they were made etc..

Ray

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Dale,

Did you find out anything about the company? What RSB stands for, where they were made etc..

Ray

Hi Ray.

My best guess is they were made in the UK, I have seen to other camelbacks and a lathe with the same logo. None of the people who had those items have returned my emails unfortunately.
So what RSb actually stands for maybe it relates to people who buy these cantankerous old machines because they will never find parts or info on them…. Really Stoopid Bast…...


The most informative source was here, relating to the RSB lathe
http://www.lathes.co.uk/rsb/

RSB Lathe

Looking similar to the well-known "Relm" lathes, the RSB might have been made by Breeds, in Leeds, a company with a connection to Relm and whose lathes were sometimes branded "Atlas". The only known surviving example, the machine shown below, is of 3-inch centre height and 12 inches between centres and would have been made during the first decade of the 20th century for the amateur market. The bed, very lightly constructed with thin walls, was of typically English style with a flat top, V-edged ways and provided with a decent gap.
Cast as-one with bed, the headstock lacked a speed-reducing backgear - though the 3-step pulley was of both an unusually generous diameter and width - so helping to give the flat belt an improved grip. Where simple and cheap split headstock bearings might have been expected (and cracked castings as a result of enthusiastic over-tightening), the RSB had a proper 2-bolt cap type that survived the decades unmolested.
Screwcutting was by changewheels mounted on a L-shaped bracket and through a very fine-pitch leadscrew fitted with a large balanced handwheel at its tailstock end, a dog-clutch by headstock and a full nut bolted to the underside of the saddle - there being no necessity for a conventional apron. The full nut appears to have been split and fitted with an adjustment bolt at its lower end - an unusual specification on a lathe of this class.
A single swivelling tool-slide was provided, carried in a traverse T slot in the saddle - with two more slots provided running longitudinally down the right-hand saddle wings - and so providing the facility of a handy boring table. Judging from the thickness of the saddle and top-slide castings, it's likely that sufficient room was available to fit a proper compound slide rest, something that the maker may well have offered at extra cost.
If any reader has an RSB lathe the writer would be interested to hear from you.

Ironically Tony finishes his webpage requesting any info readers maybe able to share…….Well he hasn't responded to my email with photos and info of my drill and asking if he has learned any more since he posted the page..




So far no leads on a Miller Cattledog either

Originally Posted by DSEL74

Ironically Tony finishes his webpage requesting any info readers maybe able to share…….Well he hasn't responded to my email with photos and info of my drill and asking if he has learned any more since he posted the page..

I have heard some guys saying Tony has always replied promptly etc etc....

I have sent him maybe 4 emails over the past 5 or 6 years and not had one reply....

Ew

It has been suggested that RSB stands for Relm, Smart & Brown, but I can find no reference to the combine name, and only lathes for Relm or Smart & Brown

Originally Posted by DSEL74

It has been suggested that RSB stands for Relm, Smart & Brown, but I can find no reference to the combine name, and only lathes for Relm or Smart & Brown

Not sure I'm entirely convinced by that idea, I've been looking on Grace's Guide and other likely places.. I did find a reference in a 1931 Sydney newspaper to an RSB Pillar Drill being sold at auction... not much help.

Ray