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    Default Need help identifying the electric motor!

    Hi all,

    I just bought this motor for what appeared to be a song at $20. Now I'm not so sure! I was hoping it was at the very least 415 Y but now I'm not so sure. I have taken it apart but I can't find the Y connection inside. looking at the plate, can someone see something that I can't that would indicate it's 415 Delta?

    415 Delta is no good to me! I'll probably get my money back at the scrap metal place but it would be a shame.

    Thanks,

    Simon

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    It's a little hard from here Simon, I dont have anything that powerful

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    Yea yea. I know you have some good optical stuff, stuff that would probably rival the Hubble space telescope but I should really include a photo anyway!

    Sorry, here it is:

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    Also did a search on the MLA 2107 motors and all I could find was this in relation to the starting method:

    3.7kW or less: Direct-on-line (full voltage) starting

    5.5kW or more: Star-delta starting

    From the Fuji website:

    Three-phase standard motor | Motors | Fuji Electric Global

    Thanks!

    Simon


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    Hi Simon,
    I'd say the star point is in there somewhere. While you could make a 415V delta wound motor, there wouldnt be much point(in a motor of this size).


    Arent you replacing a 2hp motor? Have you considered running it as is?

    Stuart

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    Hi Stuart,

    Are you suggesting that most 3 phase motors of this size are 415V Star wound?

    I could give it a try and use it as is, I just assumed it would be way way down on power & torque. I have a power meter, I could hook it up to the input of the VFD and see what it draws, that would give me a pretty good idea.

    Cheers,

    Simon

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    Hi Simon,
    Yes thats what I am suggesting. I "think" if you wound them for 415delta you could get the same end result but would use more wire......... but I could be wrong.

    Thoery says you'll have about 60%hp. I run a couple of motors in delta.
    Now what happens above and below rated Hz I dont know. i.e. On a 240V vsd, will a 415V star wired 3hp motor lose less power at 25Hz than a 240V delta wired 2hp motor? And the same at say 75Hz?

    Stuart

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    Hi,
    If you are nosing around inside the motor, you should be able to see if 2 coil ends are connected to each terminal lead, if so it is delta, if only one the other end of each coil is connected to a star point some where.
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    Hugh

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    Thanks Stuart & Duke,

    Ah yes I should have thought about that. All Delta wired motors have external wires connected to 2 wires either inside the junction box or inside the motor.

    I'll have another look. My last motor was star and the Y point was very easy to find, maybe I was just lucky with that one!

    Cheers

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    Hi guys,

    Yep definitely Star wired. I found it, eventually!

    Thanks for your help!

    Simon

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    Regards
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