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    Only major draw back from single point lifting from the Headstock could be if the Headstock is not cast into the main bed of the lathe.
    If its only bolted and not dowled you do run the risk of possable movement resulting in alignment possably being out.
    Some times it doesnt take much of a movement to throw it out.
    Not sure if the transport company do this regular or not,if it is regular surprises me he didnt lift from 3 points.
    A solid bar through the headstock with sling or slings each side and a another sling near the tailstock with a chain and shortener.

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    I read that whole thread on PM. One thing was not mentioned. If you're buying an old lathe, the bearings could well be loose. Mine were. I think all bets would be off in that case.

    Regardless of what he's seen or done or thinks he knows, the guy with the truck has no reason to give a stuff about your lathe.

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    That is right Bryan, while they might have been class 0 bearing in 1947 when built that was more years ago then I can count on my fingers...

    In all probability the bearings x years later are probably worn and could even be damaged by flight rust if the machine had sat for years without any use...
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    On that lift by the spindle thing. Any of you that have bought a lathe from a vendor with the initials H & F. I can just about ensure its been lifted by the spindle. Most years I get involved in the set up for the Austech exhibition for different vendors.

    A couple of years we have been working close to them. So you see what goes on. Every lathe is lifted by the spindle, with one choked sling around the spindle, and a 2nd leg going to the base near the tailstock. Up to and including the biggest machine they had on the floor.

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    If i did replace the bearings with normal low spec types . id think it would be OK for my use . There is a worrying rumbling sound at the rear bearing ( change gear end ) when I turn the chuck by hand . But truck wheel bearings make the same noise , so it may be nothing to worry about .

    These are a few of the accesories .

    Not sure what #1 is for ? I think one is a carriage stop ?

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    This is the large sub-headstock . It has a gear inside it . It sits on the bed V ways

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    The way i see it the bearings are designed to take load whilst spinning, not when static, this would be my concern, the point loading of only a few rollers on the race pressing on the one point and not spreading the load around the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    The way i see it the bearings are designed to take load whilst spinning, not when static, this would be my concern, the point loading of only a few rollers on the race pressing on the one point and not spreading the load around the race.

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    hi Ewan

    I was thinking about truck wheel bearings and the massive load they have to withstand , even when the truck isn't moving . Depending on the size of the truck , each bearing could have 4-5 tons or more on it , they normally use a pair of tapered roller bearings on each side of the axle . MIKE

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    My advice is...... Flush the headstock...carefully..... and use it...
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    That internally threaded boss with the gear on the end wouldn't screw onto the spindle and be the reduction drive to that sub head would it?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    hi Ewan

    I was thinking about truck wheel bearings and the massive load they have to withstand , even when the truck isn't moving . Depending on the size of the truck , each bearing could have 4-5 tons or more on it , they normally use a pair of tapered roller bearings on each side of the axle . MIKE
    Agree, but then truck bearings aren't exactly precision. Really i think they will be fine, i just can't believe that people would think it ok. The guy i use has never done that to either of my lathes, but he always has a forklift on his truck as well as a hiab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toggy View Post
    That internally threaded boss with the gear on the end wouldn't screw onto the spindle and be the reduction drive to that sub head would it?????

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    Hi Ken

    I think that's correct . But I am not 100% sure of how it all works. The manual is rather poorly written and it doesn't describe enough detail - it assumes that you know what everything is for . The lathe is capable of machining scrolls , but the manual doesn't describe how to do it I get the feeling that the book is more a boast for Hendey , they even include a map showing where the Torrington town is and many photos of the factory .

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    Mike I just had another thought ( I know; that's dangerous.)

    If the threads on that part just mentioned and that in the face plate match; it may be fair indication they both belong to the lathe.

    Another accepted method of removing a chuck is to place the machine in a low gear, open the jaws a bit and place a solid bar across the width of the chuck and close the jaws on it. If it won't budge with a decent bit of leverage then an impact or 2 on the bar should help. This method would spread the load over the long side of 2 jaws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    My advice is...... Flush the headstock...carefully..... and use it...
    Agree. Don't go tearing stuff down looking for trouble. If something is wrong with the bearings, you'll find out about it soon enough.

    My Monarch was made in 1942 and its bearings are still fine. I'll bet you it's been lifted by the spindle at least once in that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    Agree. Don't go tearing stuff down looking for trouble. If something is wrong with the bearings, you'll find out about it soon enough.

    My Monarch was made in 1942 and its bearings are still fine. I'll bet you it's been lifted by the spindle at least once in that time.

    PDW
    Thanks for the tip . But I'd like to get the chuck off to try the dial indicator on the spindle ... I am somewhat obsessed with having a almost nil runout there !

    The old Sheraton I have is good in that respect, it has nil runout on the spindle end .

    Your Monarch would have been a wartime lend - lease item. You can thank General MacArthur for it it probably made many shell cases at a munitions factory .

    Mike

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