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    Hi All,

    Well, the deal is done, and only the relocation and re-commissioning remains to be organized.
    It's a Herless MPS-350AHD Surface Grinder in excellent condition with a box of spare wheels, manual.
    Purchased in 1995, before Herless became Hare&Forbes.

    These pictures are taken in the factory.



    The magnetic chuck is 300x600, does demag as well I'm told. In this picture the head has been lowered onto wooden blocks for transport.


    The box under the bubble wrap is the hydraulic power pack, the big box under the table is the electrical enclosure, and the coolant pump and tank is over in the corner just visible.

    The intelligent looking lad behind the machine is my youngest son Josh.
    Overall there looks to be very little wear and everything is there, all the accessories so far as I can tell.
    The relocation is being organized for later next week...

    At long last I finally have a surface grinder! only took 30 years!

    Regards
    Ray

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    Nice looking unit and nice travel size Ray.

    Will look forward to your posts on getting it set up and running.

    Dave

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    Hi Dave,

    Thanks, yes, I'm wondering about how to go about setting it up as well, I'm going to have to move machines around this weekend to make space.

    Here's one of the other bigger ones, this is a "Snow" UK made apparently.



    Too big for my shed I'm afraid.

    Regards
    Ray

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    Damn Ray, are you sure its second hand? looks brand new! 600 X 300 table! whats the travel?

    Stuart

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    "Snow" UK made apparently.

    They are Ray, there's one over here, not overpriced but too big.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    Damn Ray, are you sure its second hand? looks brand new! 600 X 300 table! whats the travel?

    Stuart
    Hi Stuart,

    The travel is 670x340 630x320 if I remember correctly, (I left the manual down there) as I understand it, they bought this machine to do some die maintenance for another machine in the factory. The larger machines like the Snow and the other big vertical surface grinder were their main production machines. So this one was only used infrequently for odd maintenance jobs, and not used for production work. I think that's why it's in such good nick.

    I can imagine them not wanting to take down a setup on the big production machines to do a little die maintenance job, so this one filled the gap.

    Regards
    Ray

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    Hi Ray,
    So its all chuck then. All the surface grinders I have seen have way more travel than chuck, which seems a little silly.

    That chuck looks electric which would explain the demag feature.(haven't used one of those either)

    Stuart

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    Well is it in it's new home yet?

    Stuart

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    Hi Stuart,

    Yep.. it's home.. 5:00am start and finished unloading at 6:00pm tonight.

    We (my son Josh and I) ended up hiring a 4.5 tonne tray and buying the chains, load binders and load mat, rather than hire a specialist machinery moving company. Spent the last week reading up on RTA regulations and load restraint regulations. As usual we go over the top, and end up like this...


    Those are 8mm load restraint chains, and those yellow things are rubber lined corner protectors that I made up last night.. Worked well enough, but still managed to knock off some paint on the front.


    leisurely trip up the GV highway, Josh driving the truck, i'm following in the ute.



    Home.

    Regards
    Ray

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    Yeah I think its safe to say that wasn't going any where. Still better to have 2 chains to many and be 1 chain short. Would be 6 hours + driving wouldnt it? How did you get it off the truck?
    Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    How did you get it off the truck?
    Stuart
    With great difficulty!

    I got a hire forklift and the plan was to sling it under the forks since the ground is a bit uneven and the whole thing is 2 tonnes and a bit top heavy. He hadn't been told to bring slings, so we had no choice but to balance it on the tines..

    The center of gravity is toward the rear of the machine where the column is, which is pretty much what you would expect. but that meant the tines had to be close together which makes it more unstable.. and the result was a nerve wracking half hour. slowly creeping along.

    But it's there and no mishaps.

    Regards
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    Good to see is landed safely. After moving my lathe off the ute and onto its stand with an engine crane, I had my mill moved by a crane truck. The mate that helped me both times said "Well that was worth $300 for the stress it saved you". I think he was right.
    I guess it will be awhile before you are making sparks?

    Stuart

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    Good to see it got home safely. When I picked up my mill with some other gear and another time my 3.2mtr Robland panel saw I hired a truck because it was cheaper. I made up an A frame a few years ago for unloading machinery etc off the trailers or trucks, it saves trying to figure out how to get it off from the height of a truck or hiring someone to do it.
    Is the table set on balls or plan ways? The tables on ball ways are supposed to be taken off or raised off them with blocks of wood for transport or they indent the ways from the vibration and shocks.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave J View Post
    Is the table set on balls or plan ways? The tables on ball ways are supposed to be taken off or raised off them with blocks of wood for transport or they indent the ways from the vibration and shocks.

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    Hi Dave,
    Had me worried for a minute there, just plain ways.


    That rod through the middle is the shaft of the hydraulic cylinder.

    Regards
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    I would be checking the auto-lube system is working before using it... I assume it has an auto lube system for the ways...

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